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Looking into getting a 16x20 wall tent for next years Colorado Deer/Elk hunt. Based on the fact that it's usually snowing or freezing or both I am looking into the stoves.
What have you used and what have you had good luck with?
Accessories you would suggest?
Any other advice?
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I got this stove from Davis tent. I am very happy with it. I do have the hot water tank on the side but have not used it yet. Just make sure that you burn it off very well before you run it in the tent.
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But does it heat a 16x20?........Still standing by my recco.......
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I had a Cylinder Stove "Outfitter" model in my 14x16, and it worked fine. They have ovens, hot water tanks, etc. They're in Utah...give them a call and they can tell you what you need to know. That would be a good source.
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Yep, Cylinder Stove w/5" stack. Heats 14X21. Usually holds coals/heat all night. Water tank is the neatest, hot water all the time. DO NOT run it dry. Once water is hot we place a pebble behind it to separate it a little from the stove. Ours is now almost 20 yrs old. Looks like the one in the above pic from Robster.
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i honestly would not use a wall tent. there are much better choices nowadays than wall tents. staying up all night to keep the stove going isnt all that great a deal. Cabelas outfitter series and a mr. buddy heater is a way better way to go in my opinion. done it both ways and would go with the latter option without hesitation.
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Wall tents are absolutely wonderful, but very space limited if everyone's sleeping and personal gear is kept therein. A issue for us is no one in our camp is going to move a muscle to keep a fire going all night. Purchase a good sleeping bag, go to sleep and wake up with no interruptions at the designated hour in another tent. That way one does not have to deal with 60 or 70 degree swing in temperature over a night.
We ran a party of 5 with one wall tent and two unheated sleeping venues this past fall. A 12 by 14 was perfectly fine for cooking and evening socializing.
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We use the Davis stove like the picture and we love it. As far as heat, it'll run you out of there if you feed it enough wood. We burn lump coal at night and if nobody gets up in the night, you still have coals to stir up the fire next morning. If you have somebody 55-60 yrs. old in the group just have them stoke the fire when they get up to go pee. We have a big cast iron propane cook stove so if nobody does get up you fire that bad boy up and knock of the chill. Beats the pop-up camper we used to use.
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spent many many nightss in a 14x20 with that same stove, usually someone gets up once to stoke it, someone always gets up to peeeeeeee anyway, i made bunkbeds 2high, 4 people sleep in a 12x14, with stove and table, still room for gear,,,,when its 20 degrees or above if the stove dies down no big deal, when its 0 degrees and worse different story,,, the water heater always boils out in the night making more noise that a bear chasing the mules,,,,,, i dont use it anymore,,,,
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I had a Cylinder Stove "Outfitter" model in my 14x16, and it worked fine. They have ovens, hot water tanks, etc. They're in Utah...give them a call and they can tell you what you need to know. That would be a good source. Yep, that's what we use and it's been great. A word of advice though, DO NOT nest the stovepipe for storage like they suggest. Tried it once and never again! It's not easy to get apart without a couple pairs of pliers.
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I have a stove that I built last year for my 14x16 wall tent. I made it from an old water heater and scrap plate I had. It is sized in between the Cylinder Stoves Outfitter and Hunter model at 15.25x24". It has no problem keeping the tent warm in temps. down to 10 so far and heavy winds. I don't think it would be a prob. heating the 16x20 either. 5 sections of 5" pipe, legs, arrestor, poker and shovel, fire gloves and some lightered pine fit inside perfectly. I have the stainless cut out for a water heater but haven't got around to welding it yet.
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For camping by the truck a big ol'chunk of coal will go a long ways toward keeping the fire going longer. Just bring one big lump for everynight you plan on being there. Use wood until right before you climb in your bunk.
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I have used one of the Simms Sportsman Fold up stoves for 20+ years. It has heated everything up to a 16 x 20. I can't see where guys are saying a medium size stove won't heat that size tent. Most of the problem is it keeping tents too hot.This stove is maybe 12 x 13, x 20 sheet metal that it and the chimney weigh 17 lbs. The chimny is nested , 4 pieces slide into each other come loose with a Leartherman tool pliers as it does get crudded up.Draw back is that yoou have to spray it with vegetable oil after the seaso to keep it from rusting and that oil smokeso ff after you 1st light it.
The barrel stoves are great if you never plan pack in.
Wall tents are the way to go if you expect heavy weather. These newer tents you see from Cabelas ,etc,will not holdup to a heavyy snow load, nor will a buddy heater keep you warm in in bad storm. With wood,it is darn hard to find camp sites that do not have firewood.It's little hard to find a propane refill station anywhere close. You also get into the problem of propane not working good at very cold temps,producing moisture ,and CO. Where as a good wood stove can be used to dry your clothes,auxillary cooking, etc.
You won't know how good your set up is until you have to spend 2-3 days in the tent in a blizzard ,waitng for the weather to clear.
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Yes, we too have used the collapsing sheep herder stoves for 25+ years and find them more than adequate for heat. I'm sure there are some spiffy stoves out there, but I don't have a warehouse for storing a barrel size unit for 11 months of the year.
Some of the newer tents are spiffy too, but I like the classic wall tents without a floor. We can pour out extra coffee, throw peanut shells down, spill grease, sit the stove on the floor, don't have to remove boots before entering, split kindling inside, and lob wood through the door from the rig during intitial setup. If I wanted a fabric floor, I'd stay in a motel with maid service. We're not much into vacuming and house cleaning when elk hunting for 3 weeks.
The only issue I've ever had heating a tent was about a 20 x 40 mash tent on a sub zero scout trip. We had a king size Blaze King in that one, and going wide open we never put a dent in the temperature. My wall tent with the sheepherder unit was the place to be.
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Now your'e talking 1Minute
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The wall tent was probably the best piece of hunting gear I have ever bought and worth every penny (I got it fairly cheap though) I paid for it. It is like being at home in the wilderness. I made the stove to fit into some panniers my buddy had for a short pack in but haven't actually packed it on a horse yet. I have plans to build a collapsible stove out of stainless for a future hunt. I spent a little time this season in one of the Cabela's tents and was a little disappointed. That tent in no way held in heat and held out wind like my canvas did and the floor was a nightmare. The only advantage I see is weight but having to pack all of the poles negated that. It is great to be able to cut your frame in the bush in a half hour.
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Cylinder Stove, 'nuf said!
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I don't have a warehouse for storing a barrel size unit for 11 months of the year. Has anybody here actually seen (or hefted) a 16x20 10oz. canvas tent? Wet?.... It's just 'bout as big as a barrel. And dang few tents that big get horse/mule packed much. Might as well have a stove that's in the same boat<grin>. I stand on my rec of a barrel stove, cost mainly, and the ability to not just 'hold coals', but actually HEAT the monster. ALL night long.......
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