We would LOVE to send some Mr Griz to CA as then their flag would not be BS. Let's start with Golden Gate park.......(GRIN) Could even throw in some wolves at no extra charge. Would love to see the "greenie" reaction from Pelosis' syphophants. (LOL)
They don't want them -- it's too hard on the livestock!!!
Too many people buy stuff they don't want, with money they don't have, to impress people they don't like!
Nah, You and Casey, I like, both of ya have yer moments as I do, Brad on the other hand isn't worth the energy to wipe my azz, he just bring new meaning to dipschit antics. This Noob rkamp needs to go back under his bridge.
We could always sell all the public lands, national parks, to the highest bidder (the Ted Turners of the world would love that) and then the landowners could do whatever they want with their private land
It seems that landowners cannot do what they want with private property, at least when wolves enter the equation. Maybe Ted Turner can.....
My point is that re-introducing (any)large predatory animals to native areas requires a little more than a bat over the head, "this is what needs to happen" mentality. Hell, re-introducing large ungulates can get farmers seething.
If given a poll or referendum for making a case to the public and private entities over say elk or wolves, your not gonna get wolves, even in ag areas, period. Might be reasons for that; they might not even be grounded in reason. Man just doesn't like to be associated with food, by nature.
People have to live with what is being mandated here, and it seems those who are farthest away from it get to mandate.
May the spotted skunk find refuge in a statesman's home....
Conservation ethics are alive and well at the campfire.
If folks here figure they have a wolf problem in their backyard, well I'm not going to try to tell them they don't.
You Lee24 a page full of stats and accuse the campfire in general of lacking conservation ethics. The truth is there is an ever growing intolerance for a specific protected canine species here. This isn't a flash in the pan hollywood trend. This is real, people are upset, they have been for a long time.
Don't confuse stats with facts--the numbers I gave are available to those who want to know.
Wolf restoration has been the most popular restoration program ever--period. And there has yet to be any poll--from pros or cons--that doesn't put those opposing wolves in a very small minority. Of course, those who don't want anybody to touch a wolf are also in a small minority.
And yes, a good conservation ethic includes at least a semi-objective look at the issue, before all the blather about shooting wolves, decimated deer/elk populations, etc. There is a distinct lack of of even an attempt to understand the issue surrounding most wildlife management here on the Campfire--I continue to be surprised.
Wolves are here to stay. They should be treated and managed like every other game animal.
Casey
Casey
Not being married to any particular political party sure makes it a lot easier to look at the world more objectively... Having said that, MAGA.
Those guys on the Western side are a little slower than we are.