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If I had to pick one for all those I'd go with a big 7. If I could have two I'd go 270 and a 375.
Dober I fully agree. I think the 7-Mags make about the perfect all-around rifle for the average North American hunter. One must remember that a coastal brown bear hunt is usually a once in a lifetime experience, while a deer or pronghorn hunt will most often occur every year... often a couple of them per year in various locales... I really like the medium bores, but although fun to use on all manner of game, I just find them to be far from perfect on the wind swept plains of central or eastern Montana where many shots can be very long. In truth, I don't like the idea of just one gun for everything... instead I have matched pairs... a pair of rifles in something like .270, .280 or 7mm magnum on the lower end, and a 9.3, .375 or maybe a .416 on the top side and you've got it all covered - no matter where your passport takes you.
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All the rounds on your list could do it all. It's all about the bullets (and the range for say the 45-70).
For what you listed, the 30-06 would be my choice.
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This is THE question. I had several long range rifles that did approximately the same thing. I shot them all well, but none great. I finally settled on the boring old 30-06. a 100 year old caliber that everyone has owned 3 or 4 of over the years.
What I like about it is I can get a wide range of bullets at just about any locations. I can get a 120 gr for Florida Whitetails, I can get a 165 gr for Colorada Elk. or a 200 gr. for Canaian Moose and use the same gun. Hornady even makes a lite mag. If I need that extra punch. And mine shoots a 5/8 inch group at 100. I dont think i can do any better than that off the shelf.
But my everyday deer rifle is a Ruger 44 carbine. good short range(125 yard) gun.
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Get two rifles. You can afford it, if you can also afford to go hunting for all those species.
I'd want a mountain rifle with a reasonably flat trajectory that came in 8# or a little less - .270, .280, 30-06 or even 7x57. For the bigger stuff, I'd pick a .338 or something similar, in a 9# package, all up. Get good rifles, good glass (fixed power OK), tune them up and make them part of you.
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If I had to pick one for all those I'd go with a big 7. If I could have two I'd go 270 and a 375.
Dober I fully agree. I think the 7-Mags make about the perfect all-around rifle for the average North American hunter. One must remember that a coastal brown bear hunt is usually a once in a lifetime experience, while a deer or pronghorn hunt will most often occur every year... often a couple of them per year in various locales... I really like the medium bores, but although fun to use on all manner of game, I just find them to be far from perfect on the wind swept plains of central or eastern Montana where many shots can be very long. In truth, I don't like the idea of just one gun for everything... instead I have matched pairs... a pair of rifles in something like .270, .280 or 7mm magnum on the lower end, and a 9.3, .375 or maybe a .416 on the top side and you've got it all covered - no matter where your passport takes you. Ditto to Wild Bill and Dober!:)
The 280 Remington is overbore.
The 7 Rem Mag is over bore.
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I could easily see a 30 caliber in any of the top three places. I'd work with the 30-06 and call it (unhappily) good.
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.30-06 and yes, it even works on the great bears.
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30-06 with loads of 220gr for the big stuff and 150 for small game like deer, 165 and 180 for elk and moose.
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Ruger/Remington/Winchester chambered for one of the 30 caliber rounds.
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Take out brown bear I would go with 300wsm
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.300 Win Mag, of course!!!
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If I play by the OP's rules, I guess I would go with the .338WM.
If a person were to only shoot one rifle at game, and practice regularly, He could definitley go forth and conquer with a .338. The catch being that he would have to learn to shoot it properly from the get go, as flinches developed from shooting with improper form, or a scope with poor eye relief, or an ill fitting stock, would handicap the shooter for years.
If you roll your own, you can put together handloads with a 200 grain Hornady that will run 2750 fps or so, and kill deer without shooting up the whole front end of it. On the other hand, even brown bear notice when a .250 grain partition passes through at 2700 or so.
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My choice would be the .300 Win Mag..Just a 30-06 on steroids  Jayco .
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You can't ignore the efficiency and versatility of the .270Win..
I would use that for everything you mentioned. When the time comes to spend big money on a brown bear/grizzly hunt, then I would buy a larger second caliber.
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You can't ignore the efficiency and versatility of the .270Win..
I would use that for everything you mentioned. When the time comes to spend big money on a brown bear/grizzly hunt, then I would buy a larger second caliber. I agree on all counts. I'd go 270 Win 375 H&H.
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and the winner is....The .340 Weatherby. Anything any 30 cal can do, it can do better. 2nd choice, 375 H&H.
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30-06 for me. The 06 has a good balance of velocity, bullet weights, component availability. Second choice would be 7 Rem mag.
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If brown bear was not on the list, I would say .30-06. It's just that those things are so damn mean, and so damn big that I would want something that makes a bigger hole and dumps more energy. +1 on the .338. Maybe the best all around for North America. Kinda like this one. ![[Linked Image]](http://i14.photobucket.com/albums/a304/Fast_Ed/700BDL338.jpg) Fast Ed
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