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150 Sierra Game King
WW brass
CCI 200 primers
COAL - ~2.78" - 2.80"
44.0 IMR 8208
While not overly speedy, ~2760 - 2785 fps, the new powder is VERY stable over a wide temperature range.
Doing some testing with 135 SMK's, 155 A-Max, 155 SMK (Palma and MK), really old 168 Hornady RBT's, 125 Speer TNT.
42.2 behind a 178 Hornady Match is clocking a bit over 2600 with ES of 12 and SD of 6.
Shortround out
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my load has produced good less than an inch groups in four diffrent rifles
w-w brass
44 grs rel15
165 sierra gameking
rem 9 1/2 primer
cronoed 2690 out of my win mdl 70 feather weight. good deer and hog load
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DMB and Wink man asked about 4350 for 308. I have no idea how H4350 shoots, but I can tell you that my load for 308 is 43.5 grains of IMR4350.
In the interest of full disclosure - I am NOT shooting clover leafs. But with iron sights and military style semi automatic rifles, mixed brass (including both Win308 and 7.62x51 mm military surplus brass from a half dozen countries , surplus projectiles that vary +/- 2 grains of weight, and the cheapest primers I can find I am getting 6 inch groups at 100 yards from factory rifles. If I shoot a full magazine, every bullet is on a paper plate at 100 yards. I really can�t ask for more than that.
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You probably aren't getting much for velocity either, not that it matters for what you're doing there.
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DMB and Wink man asked about 4350 for 308. I have no idea how H4350 shoots, but I can tell you that my load for 308 is 43.5 grains of IMR4350.
In the interest of full disclosure - I am NOT shooting clover leafs. But with iron sights and military style semi automatic rifles, mixed brass (including both Win308 and 7.62x51 mm military surplus brass from a half dozen countries , surplus projectiles that vary +/- 2 grains of weight, and the cheapest primers I can find I am getting 6 inch groups at 100 yards from factory rifles. If I shoot a full magazine, every bullet is on a paper plate at 100 yards. I really can�t ask for more than that.
Not with the mixed components you are using, but if you switched to one brand of brass, bought some decent bullets and possibly primers you could shrink group size significantly. If you would be interested in such a thing?
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Here's a 10 shot group. Load data is on the target. 3.070" OAL is measured using a Sinclair bullet comparator. This load has been consistently accurate for me in both Lapua and LC Match brass. John ![[Linked Image]](http://i111.photobucket.com/albums/n159/Hondo64d/150grGameKingR1545grBR230701.jpg)
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Barnes 130gr TTSX
Winchester Brass
Federal 210
48.2gr H4895
O.A.L. 2.75" w/a light crimp= sub-moa groups
You find that the shorter length shoots better? Mine are at 2.810 or magazine length.
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8/29/10 Temp 88F, Wind negligible .308 W / Sierra 178 gr MK HPBT / Remington Brass / CCI #34 Primers 44.6 gr IMR 4064 OAL 2.800", no crimp ![[Linked Image]](http://www.cowskincreekfarm.com/images/4064 loads 002.jpg) This was well above max load by the Sierra manual but below max for Hodgdon load data from their website. 3-shot group from 120 yds. Nothing too impressive, but considering how new I am to it, I was impressed.
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My new favorite (though few tested) reduced recoil load.
130 gr. hornady sp
37gr. H4895
Fed 210 primer
Lake City Match brass
OAL 2.645"
Vel. 2400 fps
5 shot group of 1.25" at 100 yds out of a Kimber montana. I felt that was pretty good considering the wide spreads on velocity (2350-2450 fps). Ft.Lbs of recoil 10.5 ft. lbs.
I think my 11 year old will be able to shoot this without hurtn too bad. Trajectory will be dead on at 100yds and -6" at 200. Looks to be a great reduced recoil load also for plinkn at the range
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43.5 gr imr4895 155gr Berger VLD hunting CCI BR2 primer Lapua brass, OAL 2.815 ![[Linked Image]](http://i699.photobucket.com/albums/vv360/slg888/0903101325.jpg)
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48.5grs TAC CCI 200 130gr TTSX Lapua Brass OAL 2.76 3085fps 4 shots from M7 that I had the original barrel replaced with a factory takeoff sporter contour and cut to 21". It wasn't behaving quite right before but I opened the barrel channel up a bit more and everything settled down. ![[Linked Image]](http://i21.photobucket.com/albums/b297/Shoalcove/Rifle1/308Win130TTSX.jpg)
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Should add that my 300 Savage groups likewise with the same bullet, obviously not with the same load.
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I bet that load would leave a serious mark on anything we've got around here.
Most anything anywhere else too....
Now with even more aplomb
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I doubt they'll bounce off. I've shot 4 deer, 1 hog and a 'yote with that bullet in the Savage. I need to run the 308 this year, but I think I know what the results will be.
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I think somebody asked about IMR 4350 in the .308 Winchester? I was working up a load for hunting feral hogs a few months ago and gave IMR 4350 a try. Too slow for top velocity but it was very accurate in my Savage 10FLP. Right now I'm working with Reloader 15 instead. Bullet: Nosler 168 gr. Ballistic Tip Powder: IMR 4350 49.5 grs. Primer: CCI-200 Case: Winchester LOAL: 2.895 (2.273 Base to Ogive) ES: 17.13 SD: 5.38 Average Velocity: 2629.58 fps Comments: Magazine allows 2.915 maximum LOAL, this for 0.085 bullet jump. ![[Linked Image]](http://i218.photobucket.com/albums/cc265/pbcaster45/Monarch25-10X44SFMILMD.jpg) A couple of five shot, 100 yard groups. ![[Linked Image]](http://i218.photobucket.com/albums/cc265/pbcaster45/10FLPGroups.jpg)
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Dang it guys, I had to go out and buy a 308 hawkeye all weather because of this thread. I am leaning toward varget powder becasue it is $3.00/pound cheaper than RE15. Funny, nobody mentioned that or maybe I just missed that little tid bit. I had my heart set on RE15 too!! I think Varget will do pretty good though because of its insensitivity to temperature. I'll work up to that magic 46 grains that JB talks about with probably a 165 or 150 grain bullet.
I try to stick with the basics, they do so well. Nothing fancy mind you, just plain jane will get it done with style. You want to see an animal drop right now? Shoot him in the ear hole. BSA MAGA
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46 works well with a 165/168, but I run more than that under a 150.
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Thanks mathman. I'm sure I'll start out around 44 and work up from there. Of course consulting the many load manuals I have at hand. Can't wait to see how accurate it is. I've got my fingers crossed.
I try to stick with the basics, they do so well. Nothing fancy mind you, just plain jane will get it done with style. You want to see an animal drop right now? Shoot him in the ear hole. BSA MAGA
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What kind of brass and primers do you have?
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I've got 50 pieces of new winchester brass, 50 once fired federal and 50 once fired remington. I've got CCI 200 primers.
I try to stick with the basics, they do so well. Nothing fancy mind you, just plain jane will get it done with style. You want to see an animal drop right now? Shoot him in the ear hole. BSA MAGA
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