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Do they make a great AR?? Or could I build better cheaper.

All I know about the RR I looked at today is that it was a 223..

Don't know [bleep] about AR's

I have a RR and love it. Its very accurate and has a great trigger.

rej

Building your first AR you'll be about the same $ as buying one, as you'll need some specialized tools.

You can build one cheaper, but not likely a better one cheeper. The main reason to build one is you want a specific configuration that won't get off the shelf, and for the fun of it.

Figure out what you want the rifle for, i.e. plinking, varmints/target and then you can get some good feedback on various brands and configurations.

A friend owns a gun store and can sell any brand of AR and does, but hands down he will pick an RRA over anything else.

I would say that my 20" Varmint Special is great!
I have owned Colts in the past and shot Bushmasters and DPMS and think RRA is the way to go.

Just my $0.02

Ed

They want $850 for the gun. Is that a good price??

It must be the M4 I looked at???

$850 could be a good price, depends on the model & accessories.

Check out http://www.class3weapons.com/ for average retail prices for RRA gear.

They are the outfit I bought my RR from. Great folks to deal with.

Ed

Shag, RRA makes a very good AR platform, is it great, can't say. There are lots of very good serivceable AR's on the market right now.
My "go to" AR is a LMT lower with a RRA SS 16" upper. I felt this was as good as it gets for an over the counter buy.
A lower is a lower, accuracy will come from the upper.
For a starting point if the RRA you are looking at is the M-4 FT, 850.00 is the going price these days + or - a few bucks and would be a good starting point.
My newest built is a Sabre Defence lower with a Magpul stock with a White Oak Armament 6.8 upper. So far the break in shots are running right at 3/4" with factory SSA ammo.

You might consider buying a complete lower off Gun Broker and then getting the upper of choice.
What ever way you go good luck and welcome to the black rifle world.

I just bought my first AR a few weeks ago and bought a Stag Arms Super Varmiter, its crazy accurate and seems to be a awesome gun. But if had it to do over I would go RRA too it only for the 20 inch heavy barrel but the Wylde chamber too, not sure if that really matters as mine does not have that and shoots one hole with a great trigger.

Just shook a Stag 6L super varminter last week. It WAS crazy accurate and had a great trigger in it. Like passport said, she's just a little on the heavy side...at least for what I was going to be using it for. Great gun, though

My thinkng is to get a light weight RRA upper as a tactical gig.

Hunt ak, what ammo were you shooting through that Stag? I cant seem to find any well priced 223 ammo so been running hand loads.
But to be honest I have not bought loaded ammo in years, dam stuff is expensive now.

Well to tell you the truth I didn't shoot it a whole lot but when I did, I ran just plain jane PMC 55gr FMJ's through it. I'd say she did an easy 1/2" at a 100....

I wanted desperatly to get some longer bullets down the tube but ended up trading it off for a 338 RUM and I'm in the process of another build, so the wife said something had to go

I can promise you didn't shoot it much, 55 fmj is not capable of .5 moa at any distance.... the bullets just ain't good enough. The gun will be though.

High All,, I see you are talking RRA, I just bought one, and I love it its been the best I've ever had very accurate and the trigger is so sweet, for a off the shelf weapon under $1000.00.

I will be buying a 6.8 upper for it for next elk season, the good thing is you just take your .223 lower and put the 6.8 on it and boom , you got your big game rifle. ha love it. o h you have to change mags too. no bigge.

RRA All the way ...mine shoots 1 in groups with reg old fac ammo. with out even trying out to 75 yrds.

I'm assuming this was tongue-in-cheek....

not at all. I've shot a LOT of ball and match ammo, and to come up with 10 groups of 10 shots in each group at 100 yards, ball bullets will NOT do that. They are not capable of it.

They are capable of say 7 of 10 in each ten shot group being under MOA.

Lets just say I used to go through up to 20,000 rounds of ammo in ARs every match year, and if you can show me ball ammo thats capable of that kind of accuracy I'd go get a loan to buy at least a pallet of it.

Not sure if 10 shot groups are the norm for 'average grouping' measurements, but 70% moa isn't too bad, I'd say...

Its all I use, and the ball bullets will show there, OR if you shoot more than 1-2 five shot groups you'll have a flier here and there.

Point is, the gun may be accurate, but don't come over and tell me you have a .5 moa gun with ball ammo.... never seen such a beast ever and I've tried. TRUST me I"ve tried.

BTW a 10 shot group is only 2 five shot groups.... and technically there is a differnce between .5 moa and .7 moa... now you are getting closer to ball accuracy... ball are good for usually 1.5 moa and sometimes a bit better, but never seen a reliable one under moa unless you weight sort all the bullets and then you may not get there.

Nuff of this "argument"

Forgive me but the industry standard as in RRA or anyone else's guarantee is 5 shots and in some cases 3. Yes I know that doesn't tell much but it is what it is.