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You are correct, they are dimensions of the chamber, not the bullet.

Mule Deer,

I only mentioned the .222 as an example of a 3 deg. angle. I never claimed that Hornady was producing such a bullet in their GMX line up.

I am not part of the redesign team, but I have spoken with those who are.

Throat angle means about zero in the scheme of thangs. 2-15 wouldn't make a hoot on a chamber.

That is an incorrect statement. The bullet bearing surface in relation to the chamber angle can mean a great deal.

Too much can increase pressure, which will affect velocity and speed up throat erosion. It also can have a detrimental effect on barrel life.

Got any proof of that, or are you just speculating?

Within reason it can have an effect, breaking it down to minutes and seconds of an angle depending on caliber is idiotic.

You're not changing the bore diameter, or groove depth or width, just the angle that the amount of lead-in the bullet is using to enter the bore.

Run the trig out and tell me the difference. It's next to nothing over such a short distance of travel.

None in 270, but I've used both in 150 gr 30 Cal from 308 Wins.

I've taken deer and black bear with the e-tip, deer and moose with the GMX.

Load work-up was difficult with the e-tip. A 30-06 that had shot every previous bullet under an inch, probably 20 or so different bullets in all, wouldn't shoot the e-tip under 2 or so moa. Work-up wasn't quite as bad in the 308, but more difficult than any other bullet I've shot through it. Best groups were about 3/4 moa.

I've only loaded the GMX in one rifle, but it shot better than most bullets in this rilfe with very little load work-up (one powder charge and two different primers).

Both have worked very well on game, the only one I've recovered was the GMX from a moose.

I think the e-tip might open at slightly lower velocities and have a little better BC, but because of how they've shot for me the GMX has seemed to be a better choice.

OMG.....Liar 24 is back with a new handle....let's see...Lee South Carolina Engineer...LSCE


same loudmouth know it all with his "industry sources"....knew you couldn't stay away, you zany lying SOB

This is kind of a giveaway....

Ingwe

I don't believe you are understanding the process. At the point of ignition, if the chamber pressure spikes due to excessive contact by the bearing surface, that pressure does not just disappear. It drives the projectile at a higher velocity than intended down the length of the barrel. Not only is the chamber subjected to this pressure but the entire barrel.

Doing this repeatedly over time creates accelerated throat errosion and signficantly reduces barrel life. It also leads to more fouling and in a worse case scenario, can damage the bullet causing erratic flight characteristics.

Let me know if you need it explained further.

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Sorta reminds me of the way Yogi Berra used to talk.

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This is great!

You know this guy?

I need it explained further. Why do they use much shallower angles in revolvers when shooting cast bullets? To help line them up with the bore better, due to their softness and tendency to enter the bore at an angle?

So now we can start another debate: Did Lee24 lie to us when he said he'd never post on the Campfire again? It might be claimed that he didn't, because he came back with a different name.

Nah. So why did we we actually, briefly believe he wasn't lying, when that's what he's been doing for years?

There is insufficient field tested proven independent data to draw any conclusions having a high degree of correct probability on these two bullets at this time.
That said they SHOULD work as they are just ripoff copies of TTSXs with a bit of tin added.

Actually gilding metal is copper and zinc, not tin. But of course you knew that...

Don't they have different ogives?

Isn't the E-Tip more like a Partition on the front-end shapewise?

TTSX more pointed?

Fixed that one for you.

Geee....that has a familiar ring to it...

Ingwe

They're like Zombie Prairie Dogs, no matter how many times you hit them with bullets of wisdom or truth they just keep poppin'their heads out for more!! Isn't there a one word name for this kind of sado masochistic, narcissistic, trolling?