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Jackfish,<BR>Thanks for the input! I was thinking on using the 400 gr Speer data in the #27 manual to start with as I could not find any other. I was hoping to get in the upper 1900's for the velocity but I guess the 1895 will govern that! <BR>Tom [img]images/icons/laugh.gif" border="0[/img]
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Need penetration? try <A HREF="http://www.garrettcartridges.com" TARGET=_blank>http://www.garrettcartridges.com</A>
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HI,
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<br>I am just starting to get into casting, I really did not want to, but really did not have much choice. I will get my 50-110 soon, I am praying for it everyday.I ordered a mold form ballistic cast a 570 grain WFNGC, LBT type and hope to get 2000fps with it. I talk to MR. Sundles of BBA as he is getting two 50-110 from the same gunsmith and will test it some more, he told me it would be pushing it , but I might get around 2000fps.I think I should have no problem with penetration with the 570 grain it will have a SD of .313 which is what a 300 grain 375 has. Thanks,Kev
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Beeman,
<br>Could you tell me where you obtain your hammerhead bullets and your favourite load with it?
<br>I have been loading jacketed bullets only sofar, and would be interested in develloping a super load, something you are talking about..
<br>I load at the moment 405 Reminton SP with 47 grains of H4198 and WLR primers in WW cases for 1825 fps in my Winchester 1886 of Japanese manufacture, with 2" groups @ 100 yards with my Lyman peepsight.
<br>Also, what kind of accuracy are you getting?
<br>Do you use any coating on the bullet?
<br>Thanks for your input.
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I've gone to soft cast fer my 45-70 load. Used the Rem 405 on a couple elk. Pushed it with IMR 4064 an' it usually went clean thru. Did find one slug on the off-hand shoulder of a cow, an' it was a perfect 1-1/2 " mushroom. I will agree with Ellie May though, a 45-70 bullet don't have to expand much. Dang, now I wanna go shoot another elk with my ol' trusty '86. 'Spose I could git a cow tag, but the freezer's full an' we ain't got mouths enuff to finish two elk off in a year. Ever think 'bout how lil' we hunt an' how much we talk 'bout huntin'?
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I got my bullets from the Bullshop, which used to be located in Delta Junction Alaska, he has since relocated to Fairview Montana. http://www.midrivers.com/~bullshop<br> He is a very decent guy. I have had excellent results with these bullets, but from a Ruger #1, the load of which is beyond that of a Marlin. I now have a new Stainless Guide Gun, and will be working up loads using H322, and IMR 3031. I will start with 48 grains of H322, and 46 grains of IMR 3031, I will work up until either recoil, or 51 grs of H322(maximum) or 49 grains of IMR 3031(again maximum). Dan who owns the Bullshop can also give you advice, as he has mucho experience with lever actions of all calibers.
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I've been gone a while. But now I'm back. And I noticed that this thread is still straggling along. So I thought I'd mention what I'd learned in the last year.
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<br>I've been loading the 400gr Speer with IMR3031. 46gr give me right at 1500fps in my 22" 1895. 48gr ups that to 1600fps. That is considerably more than the manuals list. Maybe it's my lot of powder, or maybe it's the case capacity, I don't know. Just FYI in case anybody else is loading the same powder in Rem cases and relying on the manual for estimated velocities. Don't believe anything you read, chrono it! -al
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EllieMae,
<br>You a southern girl by any chance? Ellie Mae was my moma's name. Also the name of my uncle's best rabbit hound. When a man names his best hound after you, its a pure compliment where I come from. I'm usin' 48 grains of 3031 with my '86. It's got a long (26") barrel an' a metal buttplate, an' I should probly use a slower burnin' powder fer best velocity. But its too dang painful to shoot a bunch off the bench. So I stick with the tried an' true. Anybody got a sure fire improvement fer this rifle I'm open to hearin' it.
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Haha. This again. I've actually been proposed to on these boards. No, I'm a guy. EllieMae is just a pet name for a favorite gun of mine. I really should change my handle. -al
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Well I ain't talkin' penetration with no feller.
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Skinner that is mighty narrow minded of ya, bet you don't care much for sheep either. ![[Linked Image]](/ubbthreads/images/icons/smile.gif) <br> <br>Bullwnkl.
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I found another way to get 1550 fps with the 405 Remington bullet. I am using 31 grains of IMR 4227, Winchester WLR primer in PMC cases to get the desired velocity. Great accuracy, mild recoil, low report and flash but best of all non existant powder residue. I am using the LEE factory crimp die and crimping in front of the forward cannelure a bit.
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