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I just wondered if any of you have experienced pass through with a tripleshock or not. Most lead bullets end up on the other side under the hide.
Anyone have a story to tell?
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I saw a 308 shoot a 168 gr XXX clean through a cow buffalo's shoulders at 200 yards. Dropped it in it's tracks. No bones were hit. I hoped to recover the bullet but no luck.
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I shot a spike bull elk on the 12th of November with the 180 tsx from my 300 Win Mag. The bullet entered the chest behind the right shoulder and exited through the meat of the left shoulder. Range was 190 yards. Rufous.
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Rufous,
I used about the same load but I have a 300WSM, what size was the exit hole and do you think interbonds perform better or are you happy with the TSX?
Thanks for the info!
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I shot a large bodied bull with the 168's out of an '06, both bullets exited. Bull traveled maybe 10 yards.
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I have a friend who has a buffalo farm. He shot a few of them with a 25-06. His only rifle. He uses a 100 gr x-bullet and shoots them in the chest or neck as he sells the skulls. He has had most of them pass through. They drop instantly shot in the neck. The ones shot in the chest usually walk around like nothing happened for a minute and then just fall over. He's shot a few of them in the chest with a bow also, same thing happens. Yes he has got a few pass throughs with the arrows if he dosent hit any ribs. Note: this is not hunting its just his way of trying out differen't things on barnyard animals, he does the same thing with his cattle if he has an injured or sick one not worth saving. I wouldn't reccomend this for real hunting but he has time to take ideal shots at close range on animals that just stand there.
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Will it pass through ? ..... depends on how hard you throw-it !
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I did not analyze the size of the exit hole, just noted that the bullet did exit. I have not used the Hornady Interbond. I have killed several animals with Barnes bullets (X, XLC and TSX) and have no major complaints regarding their performance on game. I did notice that this spike had severe blood shot damage to both front shoulders. I was quite surprised by that since no leg bones or shoulder blades were hit. The deer and bear I shot earlier this fall did not have the extensive blood shot damage that this elk did. Hopefully it will not turn out to be a normal occurance. I am one who really favors exit wounds so will likely continue to use the Barnes bullet for elk and bear anyway. Rufous.
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I shot this 5x5 bull with the 168 TSX out of my 300 SAUM. Range was ~ 125 yards, MV 2975. First shot was through the ribs about 6 inches behind the shoulder. It hit a rib on the way in and exited. Second shot was right behind the shoulder. It hit a rib on the way in and on the way out and exited with a little larger exit wound. I would say they certainly are able to pass through elk.
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I put three of them through a really big grizzly. Right through without hardly opening up at all and he took his time about dying. Not good! I really examined the inside of the bear well and there was very little damage.
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The 185 gr TSX from my 338-06 at a muzzle velocity of 3000 fps landed just beneath the off-side hide after entering just behind the near shoulder, cleaning out the top of the heart and centering the off shoulder. It lost all petals and weighed 122 grs. The large bodied 5x6 bull dropped at the lasered 269 yard shot.
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I have killed several large Alaskan moose with the pre-TSX bullets. I have recovered a 225 XFB fired from a 340 which broke both shoulders and took out the onside ball at the scapula. It stopped against the hide. I've killed moose with both the 140 XFB (and the 160 Failsafe) in my 7mm-08 with chest cavity pass throughs; the former at around 50 yards, the latter at close to 300. I have also killed caribou with 150 XFBs in the 30-06 where a single bullet passed through two animals killing the second animal more quickly than the first. I am confident that the same bullet could have performed adequately on a third had one been there to stop or, at least, get in the way. Don't underestimate the penetration of these bullets. (And, of course, use them carefully if you are limited as to how many animals you can legally take.)
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I have also killed caribou with 150 XFBs in the 30-06 where a single bullet passed through two animals killing the second animal more quickly than the first. Now that's shootin' . . . . . <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/cool.gif" alt="" /> BMT
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Grandson: 243Win, 85gr TSX. Elk: 89 paces, 6X6. One shot, no bullet recovered.
Son: Same rifle as above. 5X5, 136 paces. One shot, no bullet recovered.
Me: 25-06, 100gr TSX. Elk: 6X6, under 100yds. One shot, no bullet recovered.
No followup shots were needed.
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This is great info., real life experience. Terminal performance like this and it helps ease the pain of the cost of the bullets.
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Ok Klik,
I bite.....where in the Sam hill is a ball by the scapula in the front shoulder? I've butchered a moose or few and have seen the ball in the rear hip or hind on a moose but have never layed eyes on any thing that resembles a ball in the front shoulder <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/frown.gif" alt="" /> what the heck am I missing bud or were you just typing fast? <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/grin.gif" alt="" /> Course I've seen the ones hanging below the vent, but if one of those was up by his shoulder that moose is surely thanking you for putting him outa his misery <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/smile.gif" alt="" /> 1ak
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I believe the ball is not on the scapula but on the lower bone that connect the shoulder joint to the scapula...at least that is what I have seen <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/smile.gif" alt="" />
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1ak, give it up old bud, <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/grin.gif" alt="" /> I done been through the same deal before. They are calling the joint at the bottom of the scapula a ball joint. It don't look like one and isn't like the hip joint but the anatomy books and professors back them up. They call it a ball and socket joint (whisper-- even though it ain't ). <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/grin.gif" alt="" />
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I'll accept that answer but only cause it comes from a TEXAN where the truth is never stretched and friends legs neither? <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/confused.gif" alt="" /> I just never figgered on Klik reading a bunch of anatomy books, after 3rd grade and seeing what the fairer sex has tucked away in their nether regions who needed em anymore? Thanks Boggy, it's folks like you that keep me on the straight and narrer! 1ak
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