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Been looking at 'em hard. They're due out soon. I've been a diesel man, but the 6.2 gas engine looks mean and a heckuva lot cheaper.

Anybody considering one in this first model year with the new tranny and new engines? New models tend to have.....ummmm.....bugs. Think Ford will screw the pooch with the new 6.7 Scorpion Powerstroke like they (and International) did with the 6.0 in 2003?

I will miss the manual 6-speed tranny!!!

I don't think you'll see the same problems. I was thinking about a new crummy this year but I decided to wait for the 11 models.

Is that the one with the Urea injection? Or the re-gen? My pards 2010 is kinda' stinky and annoying....considering the custom rig with the "whatever super duper lifted custom dealer pack" was 55G's+. Nice rig but......he's only getting 8-10 with the sails up.

Yep. When I started buying diesels, I liked 'em cuz they were much simpler than gas engines. I don't think that's the case anymore at all. My 2005 6.0 Powerstroke has something like 23 sensors and soooo many gadgets that I can't even see the block. It runs great, but it seems to me that things have really changed and reverting to gas may be the way to go for reliability.

Diesel in boats seems to make sense for # of reasons...trucks not so much anymore. BIG HEAVY towing......all the time is about the only way to justify it in mind.

I think the manufacturers have ruined a good thing by always striving for more h.p. and torque, instead of striving for more economy, in trucks that did just fine with 2/3 the power.

Yep, there are definitely hp and torque wars going on that have perverted the engine scene in big pickups. I agree with your assessment.

I like the new electric locker in the rear differential option. 'Bout time for this terrific performance option, huh?

I had an 03 and currently an 06 PSD. Both trucks have been beasts when it comes to towing and no problems with either. I'm waiting for the 11 but don't know if I can stomach the 55k.


http://www.dieselpowermag.com/features/ford/0911dp_2011_ford_f350_super_duty/index.html

You can buy a F150 if you don't need the bigger truck.

Saw on a Ford truck forum the other night where a guy ordered a crew cab King Ranch 2011 F-250 with 6.7 Powerstroke for.......$62k! Holy cow.....this almost caused me to vapor lock and definitely caused a few nights of insomnia. $62k for a diesel pickup.....HOLY SHEET!

I had a 1999 superduty diesel when the new body style came out. The tranny was the bug that needed worked out. I lost reverse at 1200 miles. On the way to the dealer I lost fourth gear.
They installed a brand new tranny. Seems they were having quite a bit of trouble with the new trans model. The only other thing I had a problem with was the bolts backing out of the exhaust side of the turbo. I loved that truck but haven't been able to justify a diesel due to the cost and no real load to pull.
Bob

Geeze....my 99.5 7.3 Powerstroke is still motoring along. Of course non-commercial type of use....

The auto will have a manual "lock out in each gear", meaning you can select, or lock out, the transmission from shifting.

The 6.2 will develop more horsepower, but less torque than the 6.8L V10 gas engine. It's approximately 5% more "efficient"; however, that will be affected by the consumer/driver (meaning, gearing, load, towing, etc. will effect overall mileage). The current V10 produces 90% of it's torque at 1500 RPM, the "new" 6.2L will develop 90% of it's torque at (I think) about 2500 RPM. The six-speed automatic transmission though will make it feel a lot more powerful (which it does have more horsepower than the prior gas engines or diesel throughout the RPM range).

If you're specifically concerned about the new 6.2L gas engine check out this thread (a Ford engineer is answering direct questions)

Ask THE engineer directly about the NEW 6.2L Ford GAS engine

I have a 2000 7.3 PowerStroke. Neve rhad the first problem with it. I paid right around $25k for it new.

I also have a 2008 Chevy 1/2 ton. I don't think I'll ever buy another 1/2 ton because new 3/4 tons are the 1/2 tons of old etc....

The new 1/2 tons are just too freaking light/light duty because they fall into different regulation controls.

I haven't run the numbers on a new one but when I bought my 2000 the difference in mileage between gas and diesel was huge and the price difference got paid off in about 40,000 miles - not to mention other benefits like better towing, and not stopping to get gas on trips as often etc...

My '99 F150 is basically a big 4x4 car(that can still hit 100 once in awhile). Which is all I need!


The F350SuperDuty is a different beast.

Dont know ? do you guys have Toyota Troopcarriers over there .
They are expensive but man that v8 diesel is awesome. With twin air lockers and winch they will go anywhere a truck could go..I plan to get one next year then just keep it for 20 years .

I just purged the last of the 6.0 diesels ('05 F550) from the fleet - and we didn't get stuck with any of the 6.4's - thankfully!

I have never endured worse ecomomy in vehicles - and that includes the old big block gas-hogs. 8-9 mpg was all the 6.0 litre would do, and the 6.4's are worse. Ford stepped on their own injector when they let the 7.3 go.

I was aware of the Forest Service over by Bend Oregon, had several of those 08 Ford F 550 rigs, loaded with firefighting equipment on the back...

Going down Forest Service Roads, they managed to actually break the frame on two of the rigs in less than a year..according to one of the Forest Service Rangers I spoke with last year..

Evidently to improve fuel economy, they have been mandated to use magnesium frames on them...

A truck less than a year old and they had to replace the entire frame on it, just because of weight and rough roads!

and then considering the price they paid for it..

No thanks..

Highway with my 03 6.0PSD averaged 18 and towed right around 10mpg. My 06 gets about 16mpg and the same 10 towing.

I still can't understand why Ford won't develop a small, thrifty diesel for the Ranger or F-150.. The little Toyo-Kogyo (IIRC) diesel they had back in the '80s would get 50+ mpg.. Those little things were sweet...

Yeah, but that's in an F-550.. No wonder.. My F-350 CC DRW 6.0 4X4 has 3.73 rears and gets 17 empty, 10.5 towing 12K.. They didn't have much choice.. It could not be modified to conform to the new, mandated emission standards.. The feds doomed that engine..

I'd love to see the 2011 but I cannot see a real reason to trade mine in.. I've only got 30K on the odom and it's still close to being 'in the wrapper' clean..