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BC on the STA (35 Caliber) is to low for good longrange work. Maybe if you use the Sierra. It has a BC a little over .5. Not great, but decent. With (say) the Accubond, that's not true. BC for the 8mm AB is .450. For the 225 NP in .35 cal, it's .430. Not enough difference to get horned up over. If there's a true high-BC 8mm bullet I don't know of it... Kind of the Achilles heel of the caliber.
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BC on the STA (35 Caliber) is to low for good longrange work. Maybe if you use the Sierra. It has a BC a little over .5. Not great, but decent. With (say) the Accubond, that's not true. BC for the 8mm AB is .450. For the 225 NP in .35 cal, it's .430. Not enough difference to get horned up over. If there's a true high-BC 8mm bullet I don't know of it... Kind of the Achilles heel of the caliber. Then why would you own a gutless womans gun a 325 WSM?
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Furprick,
Yeah, the .370/9.3x66 Sako is another great obscure/redundant big game round--but not quite as obscure and redundant as the 9.3 BS, which is what I used on my last (and only) Alaska grizzly.
I will make just a couple more comments on this thread:
The 8mm Remington Magnum was doomed in 1958, almost 20 years before it was introduced, when Winchester brought out the .338 Winchester Magnum. There is nothing the 8mm RM can do that the .338 can't, including shooting deer at long ranges, and some things it can't do, such as shoot 250-grain spitzers and 300-grain roundnoses. In fact there is nothing the 8mm RM can do that the .300 Weatherby can't, and even the recent spate of 8mm bullets that the .325 produced doesn't change that. (This is also why the .325 fell on its face: It doesn't do anything the .300 WSM didn't already do.)
But what the heck, there are even some rifle loonies who inist on building new .256 Newtons. If we venture outside the standard chamberings it's all fun and games anyway.
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I been thinking a 50 BMG case necked down to a phonograph needle but I'm not sure anybody on this forum would even know what a phonograph needle is? Maybe I'll try someting else.
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Ray You ARE out of date- We've all gone to 8 track players now
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My '56 Desoto has a 45RPM record player. WTH is an 8 track?
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Atkinson, the 50 necked down has already been done. It was written up in Precision Shooting, or Handloader or Womens Wear Daily. I forget. Story goes that is took several months to charge a case as it required tweezers, to drop the powder in, one grain at a time. Apparently died due to excessive case stretch as brass flowed out the end of the barrel.
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Furprick,
Yeah, the .370/9.3x66 Sako is another great obscure/redundant big game round--but not quite as obscure and redundant as the 9.3 BS, which is what I used on my last (and only) Alaska grizzly.
I will make just a couple more comments on this thread:
The 8mm Remington Magnum was doomed in 1958, almost 20 years before it was introduced, when Winchester brought out the .338 Winchester Magnum. There is nothing the 8mm RM can do that the .338 can't, including shooting deer at long ranges, and some things it can't do, such as shoot 250-grain spitzers and 300-grain roundnoses. In fact there is nothing the 8mm RM can do that the .300 Weatherby can't, and even the recent spate of 8mm bullets that the .325 produced doesn't change that. (This is also why the .325 fell on its face: It doesn't do anything the .300 WSM didn't already do.) Would ditto dat!
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Anout 10 years ago I picked up an as new 8MMMag BDL for a song.I did a little work on it and bedded it in a McMillan Mountain rifle stock.After I had my first cancer surgery I added a brake for range work as it just plain hurt to do load development.The brake comes off for hunting.With 200gr TSXs it is about the perfect rifle for British Columbia moose/grizzly.I've been more than happy with it. Monashee
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Well, since Nosler and Barnes are the only manufacturers I know of that make a 180gr or 160gr bullet in .338, then we could say 180s in the 8mm RM and 338 WM are about identical in velocity. Bit more whoosh! from the 338 RM with the 180gr.
Guessin' here that these lighter bullet weights would shine in the long range deer-poking department?
Then figure it's fairly easy to find 150gr bullets for the 8mm RM, that can be driven in excess of 3500fps and produce flat trajectories, excellent accuracy and performance at ranges out around 400-500 yards and I'd say possibly the 8mm RM has a slight edge in the deer/antelope department?
But granted, it's just more nit pickin'? ;O)
If someone wants to tinker with the 8mm RM as a dual purpose cartridge with some deer use in mind, more power to 'em. I've seen it work well and work well often, for that purpose.
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I know this is an old post, but had to add something if anyone interested.
I picked up an 8mm Remington Magnum in an original 700 BDL with about 20 rounds through it. Topped it with a Leupold 3.5 x 10. It draws a crowd at the range when I let a few fly.
Going to use Barnes 160TTSX pushed with Rl-17 for deer and bear in PA this year. I chrono'd this load at 3380 avg velocity for 4 shots and a group size of .6"
The thing I love about this gun is after I shoot about 10 rounds and then shoot my 7mm mag, it make the 7 feel like a 22.
Was wondering what loads people are using for 200 Accubonds.
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