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Say you want a coyote gun for tagging yote #2 (you drop the lead yote and would like to pickup the second one who's obviously hauling butt and headed out of the county).
Bolt or Semi-auto?
I'm finding I take more time with the bolt than I do the semi, so I'm now leaning to the bolt. Shooting fast is just way too much fun.
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I am sure a semi auto rifle can be shot well. As for me I hunt with the type of rifle that I admire. However it seems that for many my 'type of rifle' is in the past. When I shot competitive the match rifle was a bolt from four positions. Later Garands were seen but the primary course was slow fire, one minute allowed for a shot. Now 'my' match is gone and they shoot auto rifles with a rapid fire course included. I don't have to change. I am a single shot kind of rifleman.
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I'd go bolt, years back I bought a BAR in 243 and it worked well and shot well but the bolt handled better to me and I found I can do just fine racking the bolt so the BAR went down the road.
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The guys around here use both, but on the running dogs they're using the various ARs.. A good one, with a good trigger man, will do wonders on running yotes..
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Redneck, I just don't seem to have caught on to the AR-rifle thing for hunting yet! I suppose I am old school with those model 70 Winchester's for mine.
However, I have seen a few of those AR's from Rock River Arms that were shot at our gunclub and they don't take take a backseat to anything as far as tight groups goes.
The fellow yesterday (nice day too!) was shooting his and it printed groups of less than .700-MOA and his buddy managed a .560-MOA for a 100 yards. They can also shoot em fast too! This young fellow popped off 3 shots and kept them inside 1.6 inches at 100 yards. Now is this luck or what I don't know?
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I could shoot the BAR fast, but I still had to reaquire the target so the bolt to me plenty quick enough..
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At the moment I've got a 243 bar, and it's just as you said I can shoot it fast, and that sucker is accurate.
But I've got a tikka t3 243 that shoots cloverleafs on a bad day, so I'm thinking about getting a 25-06 for longer reach varmints.
I really don't need to move it, but I thought being a bit more open minded I might get some good ideas by sharing the question.
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I like both the 243 and the 25/06 and both to me are excellent long range rigs.
B4 I bought a 25/06 to help reach things out I'd consider my scopes on my 243's and make sure they were giving me all they could to go long.
Poing being, if you're running a LRF and dotz or turrets you're set up about as good as you can be with a 243 or a 25/06.
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If I was thinking in terms of multiple shots at an animal as small as a coyote, I'd be thinking AR15 with the appropriate bullet loaded.
What we could have done to the jacks back in the day in NM with an M4gery...
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How 'bout a pump? I'm about ready to do something really different for a change, and that damn 760 Skane posted pics of (from Hillbilly rifles) is still renting space in my head. So we're way past "Gun Infatuation" at this point
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Oh... I use a Parts Gun, on a DPMS lower ACE skeleton buttstock, and a M1Sales Ultralight upper 1:9 chrome lined barrel and RRA 2 stage on an A2 upper.
I'm thinking I'll pick up a stripped flat-top at the gunshow this next weekend and probably put a 2-7 Loopy on it.
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The AR idea is a good one, I know they work on running stuff..
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A AR-10 might be OK ...
the only problem with the BAR is it likes heavier bullets than I'd like on yotes / PD's...
then again a 6.5 might be the way to go - aka a 260 AR-10
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Well if I was going to do Dedacated rifle for Coyote shooting, I think I would go with a tricked out AR-15 for the purpose. You can get them now that shoot very very well. And you are talking about multiple Coyote's, a Semi Auto will give you that very fast second shot.
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I've got a 20" bull barrel flat top AR .223 cal. It will shoot with any bolt gun .223 and recoil is negligible. An upgraded trigger is a must for accurate shooting, especially on followup shots. In my case a Rock River National Match fits the bill. Having said all that, last time I went yote hunting I took my 7mm mag Rem 700. What ever floats your boat. Beautiful pic by the way, Savage99!
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I prefer a bolt action rifle for all forms of hunting requiring a centerfire rifle. I like traditional stock angles and never got into pistol gripped anything.
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Wonder what scenarshooter has to say on this topic? I've seen lots of pics of him with a bolt and non with an AR. Heard he's killed a few coyotes...
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For calling rifles the AR rules in the Semi-Auto's. You can build them as light or heavy as you want , no recoil, accuracy that will rival some bench rifles and they are just plain fun to shoot. They are addictive.
A Doe walks out of the woods today and says, that is the last time I'm going to do that for Two Bucks.
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I was told once and I agree that "Unless you are pelt hunting there is no such thing as to much coyote rifle." My .223 VTR is a great gun and have no problem with follow up shots. However an AR would be fun, I am trying to put one together for varmints. Think the AR would be a better choice but that's just an opinion.
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I have yet to kill a coyote, but I have called a few in. They can come in so fast and so close I have felt silly holding a bolt gun. Now I will only take an AR or a long range shotgun, basically a turkey gun.
Of course my hunting grounds may be a tighter than yours.
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