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? MAD DOG SAID HE HADE A 1900 CATALOG WERE DO YOU GUYS GET THESE INFORMATION PUBLICATIONS?

I think SavParts has the 1900 on his web site. Repints of several of the early ones are avaialble from Savage99.com. The originals are a little more. An 1895 will run from $1300 to $1500, if you can find one. <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/grin.gif" alt="" />

mad dog,

Let me see if i can clear some things up about this rifle i have.
I should not try to respond to these things late at nite.

Yes, i have taken the rifle apart and the serial numbers do match. That rear sight ( flip ladder type ) is not a military type. The butt plate is the Cresent type. The stock and fore end are made of Cherry. The roll marking on the barrel,out in front of the rear sight, as follows:

MANUFACTURED BY SAVAGE ARMS CORP. UTICA,N.Y. U.S.A.
JULY,25,1893.OCT.3,1899.SEPT.10,1907.MAY,25,1909.JUNE 1,1909.


..keep your powder dry..
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I just love these threads ....... now I must dig a few out of the vault and examine them carefully to see if any don't fit the information given. This is how people become serious collectors.
BillR

Got my 1900 on Ebay, it's an original not the 68 reprint. Someone mispelled the title so got it for a bargain. <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/wink.gif" alt="" />

308- so your rifle has a serial number between 200,000-283,000?

OK <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/smirk.gif" alt="" /> I also have what I assume is a 99-F in 22hp with a serial #223xxx that has no 1899 or 99 marking anywhere <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/smirk.gif" alt="" />

Hahaha, wouldn't you know it, just got pics of this thing, it's a parts gun but I did finally find a stock set for my 1899F. The sn isn't 6 digit, it's 5. The saddle ring is missing and it's got a 22 H.P. barrel on it. Oh well, part it out. <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/smirk.gif" alt="" />

Senior,

By Murray your 22HP is a 99-F. I think it's an 1899-H. Just don't call it an 1899-F. <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/grin.gif" alt="" />

PS...the 1920 catalog states that the 1899 featherweight rifle (still the 1899-H by Murray) has a metal butt plate and offered in TD only. Not till the 1922 catalog does the "F" appear in print in a catalog.

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By Murray your 22HP is a 99-F. I think it's an 1899-H. Just don't call it an 1899-F.

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I just noticed p-3-25 Murrays book lists the 22hp up to serial #220xxx, course it also says 1899 marking on barrel which my hp doesn't have <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/confused.gif" alt="" />

OR your right according to specs on p- 3-41 it could be a 99-F but your sure right it's not an 1899-F after all it's got NO 1899 on the reciever <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/grin.gif" alt="" /> <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/grin.gif" alt="" />

Nothing like makin rule so you have something to break <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/grin.gif" alt="" />
My kids accuse me of the same thing <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/blush.gif" alt="" /> <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/grin.gif" alt="" />

mad dog,

serial number is 199***


..keep your powder dry..
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I think I may understand what's going on here, but I could be lost too. In any case it's good info tht deserves to be saved in my Murray book.

If it helps I have gun # 233754, what I believe, from reading Murray's book, is a 1921 99A T/D, 26" round barrel, .303 Savage, straight stock, crecsent butt, Marbles automatic tang sight.

The only marking on the reciever is the small SAVAGE 1899 MODEL on the ring and an M on the lever boss.

Regards,
Rob

Rick, could the safeties on the 1899A T/D and the 99B be different? If so, couldn't that be used to tell the difference between the models? Or do they both have a bent tab safety?

Rick, Interesting thread, i have a 99G serial no 2451xx in 303 caliber it has the small savage 1899 model stamped on the reciever ring .Would this be a 1922 rifle also? DON

G's in 303 are kinda rare...so are T's in 303...Jed

Rob,

It would be an 1899-A, TD or a 99-B. Yours is so close to what I think is the trasition point it would take a letter to see what was in the log book.

I don't feel the the small 1899 stamp has much to do with anything. It's just there.

Don,

There is no question what yours is, 99-G. "G's" started at around 236xxx serial numbers. I don't think the small 1899 stamp on the receiver ring means anything.

No, I think the safeties changed around 90,000 and between 34x,xxx and 35x,xxx. Something else that needs to be checked.

Rick,

Going by my only reference, Murray's book, I would have to say that mine is an 1899-A, TD since it has the Rocky Mountain Knife Edge front sight, not the white metal bead front listed for the 99-B. The front sight does look original to the gun.

Also the only other difference between the two according to Murrays description might be the Schnoble forarm. The 1899 is listed as being gracefully shaped as opposed to being full. Mine looks to be the same as the picture he shows of the 1899.

Rob

Rob, if your using Murrays as your reference, he also states that in 1920 the 1899A also began using the white metal bead front.

I see that but since the 99-B was never listed as having the Rocky Mountain knife edge, I must assume it's a 1899A.

Rob