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I had a 700 in 300 wsm a couple years back that did not like factory ammo at all. However, the first handload that I tried in it shot under an inch without doing anything to the rifle.
I have a friend who took apart some factory loads and found that charges weren't very consistent.....which surprised me in this day and age!
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I haven't been able to get my 700 mountain rifle to shoot any factory 130gr worth beans. None of them shoot better than 2", some as bad as 3.5". It shoots Federal 150 sierra gamekings pretty well at 1 -1.25", and Federal 140 gr nosler accubond really well with .75 - 1" groups. I probably should just shut up and shoot heavier bullets, but it bugs me.
I have a M700 .270 WCF that shoots the exact same way. 150 SGK's at about 1.5MOA, 140 AB's and 135 SMK's both MOA. 'Shorter' 130 grain bullets aren't nearly as accurate but like you say shut up and shoot!
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My 270 shots 140's like a champ, but hates 130's.
Kill's what I point it at though.
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I don't know, if it was me I'd burn 4 or 5 pounds of powder trying to get the 130's to shoot. Magic bullet you know. I have never had a 270 that didn't shoot well with the 130 gr. Hornady Spire point loaded out to just off the lands pushed by a top load of H4831. That said the 140 gr. Accubond is a fine bullet.
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Can't see why a 270 would shoot one weight of bullet and not another. This isn't a case of an on the edge twist rate. That is different than not liking a particular bullet or two.
I've always been the type to remove a bottleneck rather than operate at it.
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I have never had a 270 that didn't shoot well with the 130 gr. Hornady Spire point loaded out to just off the lands pushed by a top load of H4831. Or RL 22. If that bullet or a 130 Sierra won't shoot..somethings wrong.
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Just my observation but I have noticed pretty much all the .270's I've had have shot better with the 150's and 160's.
To date (with the exception of one barrel which wouldn't shoot anything!) I've never had one that wouldn't shoot the 130's pretty darn well.
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Can't see why a 270 would shoot one weight of bullet and not another. This isn't a case of an on the edge twist rate. That is different than not liking a particular bullet or two.
I've always been the type to remove a bottleneck rather than operate at it. I don't think it's the bullet weight so much as the original poster just hasn't found the factory load the rifle likes yet. However, if I had a 140 grain load shooting MOA and better as he does, I'd sure hunt it.
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i have a friend who does great things with the ballistic tip 140... gotta believe that the accubond would do as well...
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Stick with the 140's mine also likes the 140 hornady interlock loaded in their light mag (now superperformance) ammo. The 140s dont lose much velocity and buck the wind a little better in my humble opinion.
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I haven't been able to get my 700 mountain rifle to shoot any factory 130gr worth beans. None of them shoot better than 2", some as bad as 3.5". It shoots Federal 150 sierra gamekings pretty well at 1 -1.25", and Federal 140 gr nosler accubond really well with .75 - 1" groups. I probably should just shut up and shoot heavier bullets, but it bugs me.
Any thoughts?
This is my first post at this awesome forum. You're lucky--I have never got that kind of groups with Federal Premium ammo....then again, I'm pretty sure I have bad factory ammo karma............. Which is why I don't use factory ammo for anything other than chrono'ing a new rifle. Try 150's--they're better bullet for a 270 anyway........ Casey
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I dunno but I am just sitting here trying to recall a 270 that would not shoot 130's and of the many I've owned/shot I cannot recall one.I have 5 of them over here now and every one of them shoots 130's just fine. If a 270 did not shoot 130 Sierra's and 130 Partitions I'd just sell it. I hate screwing around with rifles that have emotional problems 
The 280 Remington is overbore.
The 7 Rem Mag is over bore.
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Bob,
Perfect candidate for a new Douglas barrel and a Mickey Coleman install and trigger job. Bet it would shoot 130's then.
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I feel the same way, sometimes. I dunno but I am just sitting here trying to recall a 270 that would not shoot 130's and of the many I've owned/shot I cannot recall one.I have 5 of them over here now and every one of them shoots 130's just fine. If a 270 did not shoot 130 Sierra's and 130 Partitions I'd just sell it. I hate screwing around with rifles that have emotional problems
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Dave, that rifle will come around.....needs TLC as you suggest.
The 280 Remington is overbore.
The 7 Rem Mag is over bore.
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I would try the Federal Fusions. I have been using them for three years or so on pigs and deer. They are accurate in my gun and effective.
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My '.06 won't shoot ANY of the .270 loads well! LOL
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Number one rule of owning a rifle: You need to shoot what bullet it likes, not what you like.
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Number one rule of owning a rifle: You need to shoot what bullet it likes, not what you like.
With all due respect,and IMHO and not intended to inflame,but........backwards.....  ....the bullet is everything; the rifle is secondary; only a delivery system for the bullet,which does all the work.I choose the bullet; if the rifle does not shoot it the way I want, I sell the rifle. The rifle does not tell me what I must shoot....I tell "it". YMMV.
The 280 Remington is overbore.
The 7 Rem Mag is over bore.
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I bet the 130's have more "jump" to lands than the 140's, and as a result, the 140's are more accurate. I know the jump difference between a 140tsx and a 130tsx with the same coal is substantial.
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