Home Forums Hunting & Shooting Hunter's Campfire Local Police switching from Sig .45 to Glock 9mm

A few years ago, we had a drug bust go bad and a couple cops were killed. The 1st guy in took a 44 mag round to the chest. He still was able to empty the mag on his .223 carbine into the perp before he died. Big bullets aren't necessarily instant death even with a good hit.

500.00 for the used ones from what I heard. Little high in my opinion.

As a ICU/ER RN, I have seen quite a few wounds/trauma due to shootings from a variety of firearms. I have taken care of, sometimes that means a very short period of time in the trauma bay before the patient expires, a variety of handgun wounds. Different calibers, hardball, hollow points..whatever. In the end, my opinion is that it matters more to where the hit is as oppossed to what did the hitting. Most hollow points, in my experience, mushroom less that half the time. I've seen one shot kills with 38's and 9mm's, survivors with multiple hits from large bore rounds ( 44,45 )....and vice versa.
In the end, it reminds me of what a friend of mine once said. He was a retired Federal Agent, and said that handguns are ok for defense...but if your going into a gun fight nothing takes the place of a rifle or shotgun! Hopefully none of us will ever be in a postition to have to find out. Good luck and health to all. Hope this helps in some way.

There's a wide range of knowledge down there, not to mention opinions. There are also Glock devotees and those who are objective about the Glock. I don't recall the "Frisbee Test."

As for the pain, the written word can draw comparisons.

and a shortage of 9 ammo.

You always have to see the storm cloud behind every silver lining, don't you?

I'll make a call to double-check but IIRC, Fairfax County switched from 9mm after the detective parking lot shooting deaths to either a 41 or 45. I'll follow up to make sure,though. I could be wrong and heard only of a wish or preference.

Well Glock took the �Frisbee Test� seriously enough that they corrected that particular deficiency. It isn�t a stupid test, it�s actually a pretty good idea. While running, it�s not uncommon for an officer to take a face plant, and when you do so, those who are not trained how to fall, will come down hands first, slamming their pistol on the ground. The �Frisbee Test� showed that there was a good chance that a Glock�s slide would pop off, rendering the gun useless. Glock quickly beefed up their rails and this has not been a problem for years.

As for using the Glock as a club, I think it�s pretty well known that pistol whipping has been horribly frowned upon for well over 25 years; I wouldn�t worry about that one.

I must have missed the memo.....





That's a crude joke by the way.

I only use revolvers as clubs.

You have an interesting wealth of knowledge. Your Fed buddy is entirely correct.

A knife wielding assailent is inside the 21 foot danger area and is racing toward you at full speed and you have 1 shot to stop him do you realy want a 9mm or a 45 with a 230 grainer ate 950 FPS

I know which one that I am going to take

I ccw a Glock 19-I like it.
I don't feel handicapped with 16 +P 125gr Corbons, either.

Still, my 'house gun' is a Glock 21SF with 230gr HPs, so I guess I am not in any campfire 'faction' when it comes to the caliber stuff.

Me too---Casull .454

.375 H&H for me.

That's probably a good choice if they are going to utilize a single gun and round. The Glock is easier to operate, shoot and maitain and the 9mm is definately easier to hit with than the .45acp. Most cops arn't gun enthusiasts and easier is better.

Pat,
I know a few cops(just acquaintances) and one of them is a gun nut and puts probably tens of thousands of rounds downrange a year, the others just look at a gun like a tool and practice only when they have to.
If you don't mind my asking, what is your issued sidearm?

Our department does not issue sidearms, we must supply our own. We are not limited to a single gun and round. My agency requires that you carry a double-action semi-auto Sig,Glock,HK, S&W, Walther or Springfield with at least 3.5" barrel in 9mm, .40 S&W or .45ACP.

My tool of choice is a Glock 23, .40 S&W.

Pen. Sorry boss, couldn't resist. grin

Thanks, Pat.
I really like the G23, by the way-but I just don't shoot the 40 as well as the 9mm and even 45 in the Glocks, for whatever reason.
Still, I recently picked up a used G35-guess I am a slow learner.