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Hypothetical situation, you miss a shot at a deer while brush hunting. The deer does not know your location and is quiet, yet alert, obviously. You want a follow up shot, but ejecting and chambering is going to be noisy.
What action type would you want in that situation? Lever, bolt, break-open, pump, falling block, or other. By the way semi-automatic is not an option, as it is illegal north of the border.
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Dude, I hunt without one in a chamber period. I've worked all kinds of bolts and levers. Trust me if the shot didn't scare the [bleep] out of him the action ain't.
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The Remington 740,742,7400 or the Browning BAR if a follow up shot is important these are ready for your second miss.
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An accurate well aimed first shot, so a second one isn't required. But if the deer ain't running like the end of the world is in sight, any action other than maybe a Winchester lever will do. (Nomex suit on.) 
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90% of the time I use a bolt rifle and I've got another shell chambered within a couple seconds if I need it or not. I don't even think about it, it's second nature just as putting the safe on/off or flipping up my scope caps.
Most people that are familiar with their bolt guns can fire an accurate second shot just as quickly as most any other action.
I emphasize accurate in that sentence
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Likely a semi auto will cycle while the rifles report and subsequent echos are still rebounding around the landscape. Of all of my rifles, the Ruger #1's are the quietest.
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The Remington 740,742,7400 or the Browning BAR Of those, I'd say the Remington is the quietest. It goes "bang" one time and that's pretty much all you hear... 'till the cussin' starts... 
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BAR - no noise at all.
And if you hunt from a deer stand in the thick stuff this is an issue.
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A Doe walks out of the woods today and says, that is the last time I'm going to do that for Two Bucks.
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I've never shot a semi-auto yet that could be closed quietly and be reliably locked up. One of the few times I have ever missed a moose was when I was using a BAR that had an empty chamber.
Nowadays I use a bolt gun with one up the pipe. Of course this has a lot to do with the way we hunt.
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Learn how to work a bolt gun quickly and the next round will be in the chamber before the sound of the shot has subsided. With practice you can work a bolt rifle pretty fast.
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I have popped caps on my side-lock muzzle loader at deer that were only 25 yards away, and managed to clean out the nipple and slide on a new cap without them running. The noise isn't always a factor.
The quietest is probably a break action single or double. Ruger, Merkel, H&R, Knight...
After that... pick your risks. A hammerless lever or a bolt would likely be next, but as Steelie already indicated, you're taking an unnecessary risk at that if you're rolling with a hot chamber.
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Remmy, Sako, Tikka...
But my most quiet is a Matthews...grin.
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For a follow-up shot, cost no object, the quietest is a double rifle. Here is John "Pondoro" Taylor discussing the subject in his classic book, "African Rifles and Cartridges," from his experience of hunting elephants professionally in thick cover.
"Then there's the question of silence: one seldom hears this spoken of or mentioned in writing except, of course, by other staunch upholders of the double; but personally I consider it of the very utmost importance. No matter how careful you may be you cannot avoid the metallic clatter of the bolt when reloading with a magazine rifle. It frequently happens that game stands motionless after the first shot, quite unable to place the danger zone; if you want a second shot you can get it with a double; but the inevitable clatter of a magazine [rifle] will stampede them before you are ready to fire with that type of weapon."
Incidentally, his technique with using a double for dangerous game was to reload quietly after the first shot whenever possible, before firing a second, in order to always have a shot in reserve in case of a charge. For this reason he always used non-ejector doubles so as to avoid even the 'click' of the ejector as a giveaway noise.
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For a follow-up shot, cost no object, the quietest is a double rifle. Here is John "Pondoro" Taylor discussing the subject in his classic book, "African Rifles and Cartridges," from his experience of hunting elephants professionally in thick cover.
"Then there's the question of silence: one seldom hears this spoken of or mentioned in writing except, of course, by other staunch upholders of the double; but personally I consider it of the very utmost importance. No matter how careful you may be you cannot avoid the metallic clatter of the bolt when reloading with a magazine rifle. It frequently happens that game stands motionless after the first shot, quite unable to place the danger zone; if you want a second shot you can get it with a double; but the inevitable clatter of a magazine [rifle] will stampede them before you are ready to fire with that type of weapon."
Incidentally, his technique with using a double for dangerous game was to reload quietly after the first shot whenever possible, before firing a second, in order to always have a shot in reserve in case of a charge. For this reason he always used non-ejector doubles so as to avoid even the 'click' of the ejector as a giveaway noise. Thanks 222, that's the kind of information I was looking for. That makes good sense. Would be interesting seeing his non-ejector drillings.
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Nobody that I know of in the south hunts deer with an empty chamber; it's simply unheard of and would be virtually impossible to get away with on whitetails in close quarters. Hell, I won't even hunt with a rifle with a noisy safety let alone have to work the bolt before I shoot. I believe the OP asked about actions other than semi-autos. I suspect that a single shot would be the quietest, but probably not the fastest. As another poster suggested, if you work the bolt right after the shot I doubt the animal will hear the sound of the bolt during the blast. That is what I do and have used a follow up a time or two to prevent an animal from running someplace I didn't want him to with a second shot or taking a second, third or fouth animal out of a crowd.
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Sweet Jesus is this some funny [bleep]
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