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I'm curious why standard lead rifled slugs kick so hard. It seems out of proportion to the weight of the load. I shot my first slugs ever last Monday. Three of them out of my new 590 A1 Mossberg beat the living crap out of me.
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Because 438gr projectiles leaving at 1800 fps have a bit of push to them.
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In a 7.25 pound gun the 1 oz slug will have recoil energy in the very high 30's.
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If you think slugs kick, get some 3" 00 Buck loads. They will loosen some fillings for sure, especially in an H&R single shot with the hard rubber buttplate. I dont know what the recoil energy was, but my .375 didnt even get close to that level of recoil (pain).
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I can only say,a 7.5 lb rifle with a 425 grain cast out of a 45-70(1866 fps@ less than 35,000 PSI) kicks all but the same as a .375 H&H( 9 lb rifle) with a 270 grain at 2700 fps but yet a 550 grain 45-70 kicks less,more of a push than a snap,much more enjoyable to shoot.
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If you want to have snot fly and be able to applaud behind your back with your shoulder blades, give the Remington Buck Hammers a try. Welcome to the wonderful world of slug shooting.
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But, I ask, the shot weight is the same or higher than the buckshot or slug, so they should recoil the same.
I never noticed buckshot kicking all that hard in 15 years of shooting them for my qualification training, is there any tests showing a higher recoil with them, or is it all "perception".
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Slugs buck, not doubt about it. Growing up in a slug/muzzy only state, I used to always get a kick out of threads asking what rifle cartridge to start a youngster with. It's better now in IN with the use of pistol cartridge rifles and .410 slugs being legal, but when I started a 20ga was as small as allowable. I remember leaning way out over the seat of my treestand to shoot at my first deer with a 20ga. slug. I was leaning to keep from getting kicked out the other side!! That was the first time I ever fired that gun with a slug and it kicked but wasn't nearly as bad as I had imagined.
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10 ga. single shot 3.5" slug. Like shooting a bullwhip.
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1 1/4 oz. 3" slugs out of a 7 1/2 lb. shotgun will boot yer azz into next week...ask me, I know maddog
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I had a 20ga Franchi yrs ago that to shoot slugs you had to cut a switch and whuup yo' azz to make you pull the trigger.
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I have a 10 Ga. Blunderbuss that I built from scratch. At the stake shoot compatitions I would put two 1 1/2 oz. balls in it and with moccasins on I would slide back a full step. I was quite the croud pleaser but after about 7 or 8 shots I was pretty much done for the day. And that was black powder Modern shotguns with smokless powder even my 12 Ga. with standard 2 3/4 shells and slugs almost kills me.
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But, I ask, the shot weight is the same or higher than the buckshot or slug, so they should recoil the same.
I never noticed buckshot kicking all that hard in 15 years of shooting them for my qualification training, is there any tests showing a higher recoil with them, or is it all "perception". Slugs are generally going faster. I've never chronographed shot loads, but slugs have gone anywhere from 1,300 to 1,800 fps, most are over 1,500, depending on the load. If a slug load is going more than 300-400 fps over what reload data "estimates" for shot, you basically have a 308 Win. v. 300 Win. Mag comparison. The factories could use magnum powders as well, which can also effect recoil. That I do not know. Perhaps a gunwriter with some first hand will chime.
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Slugs buck, not doubt about it. Growing up in a slug/muzzy only state, I used to always get a kick out of threads asking what rifle cartridge to start a youngster with. It's better now in IN with the use of pistol cartridge rifles and .410 slugs being legal, but when I started a 20ga was as small as allowable. I remember leaning way out over the seat of my treestand to shoot at my first deer with a 20ga. slug. I was leaning to keep from getting kicked out the other side!! That was the first time I ever fired that gun with a slug and it kicked but wasn't nearly as bad as I had imagined. You mean you took a gun hunting without testing it on paper to see where it shot??? Von Gruff.
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I had a 20ga Franchi yrs ago that to shoot slugs you had to cut a switch and whuup yo' azz to make you pull the trigger. i know what you mean with the franchi they are so light they knock the hell out of a person.But they come to the shoulder better then any other gun in the field
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Bought that gun in 1968. It was one of the silver sided with etching. I wore it slap out. I kept accurate count of shells I shot and that was exactly a blue zillion. When I bird hunted I would carry some slugs(we had big quail back then in Miss) The imp cyl barrel shot them very well. Would love to find another one that wasn't shot to death.
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Slugs buck, not doubt about it. Growing up in a slug/muzzy only state, I used to always get a kick out of threads asking what rifle cartridge to start a youngster with. It's better now in IN with the use of pistol cartridge rifles and .410 slugs being legal, but when I started a 20ga was as small as allowable. I remember leaning way out over the seat of my treestand to shoot at my first deer with a 20ga. slug. I was leaning to keep from getting kicked out the other side!! That was the first time I ever fired that gun with a slug and it kicked but wasn't nearly as bad as I had imagined. You mean you took a gun hunting without testing it on paper to see where it shot??? Von Gruff. Yep. Don't really recommend the practice. Dad may have shot it, I don't know. Killed a doe with it at 30yds.
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Don't know for sure about all the slugs, but I used to shoot a FEW through a double, or more often a single shot. As for geting hurt, I have shot exactly one 3 1/2 inch 1 7/8 oz through my H&R single. I dunno if I can make myself do that again.
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I agree on the Remington Buck Hammer slug. Took my T/C Encore 12ga turkey barrel and changed the choke to an Improved cylinder. 3 shots and it cracked the pistol grip area of the stock. Couldn't figure out why the stock was loose until I saw the crack.
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In a 7.25 pound gun the 1 oz slug will have recoil energy in the very high 30's. Similar to a 375 H&H fired in an 8 pound rifle.
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