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Seems like a potent little round, how come no one makes a rifle for it?
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i'll hazard a guess - because it is not a popular round and it doesn't have "nostalgia" going for it!
like many, the round has a following, but not nearly large enough to warrant mass production. it's all about the money as in "potential for profit". sadly, the 358 norma offers little potential. ymmv.
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With the possible exception of the .35 Remington no .358" cartridge has been very popular in the US.
The .35 Whelen is lauded by those who use it but even it isn't a very good seller.
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With the .338 WM and .340 Wby on one side, and the .375 H&H on the other, not much need for it even though on paper it is very appealing. Nothing wrong with it, just in a crowded field of cartridges.
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The only factory rifles I have seen were Euro products, and Scandahoovian at that...jim
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Because as we all know, factories shy away from making perfect rifles.
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Can't think of a ton of commercial Euro cartridges that ever gain real acceptance here, except for the ancient military chamberings like the 7 Mouser and 6.5 Swede.
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Question.
Is the 358 Norma a 338 win mag necked up or are there more differences?
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Question.
Is the 358 Norma a 338 win mag necked up or are there more differences? It is basically a 338 necked up. There isn't much market for rifles over 30 caliber and what market there is is well served by the 338 WM and 375 H&H. Nothing wrong with the 358NM, just not different enough from the 338WM to establish a niche.
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All the arguments for why it "won't work" apply easily to so many of the various other upstart stuff.... 338 RUM, 375 Ruger, 325 WSM, ....the list goes on, but none take anything away from how fine the big Norma is. Now tell me why I need my 340 or 375 anymore; I'm not much feeling the need...
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You know, it's not that expensive to just rebarrel your rifle if you really want a .358 Norma. I think between action, stock, barrel and bluing I spent around $1,000 on the .358 Norma I built. If you have a belted magnum rifle that you aren't using, and if you have a stock you already like on it, just rebarrel for a couple hundred bucks.
Mine kicked like a fricken mule, but it was incredibly accurate.
Next one will be stainless though.
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With the possible exception of the .35 Remington no .358" cartridge has been very popular in the US.
The .35 Whelen is lauded by those who use it but even it isn't a very good seller. With respect, I hear that about 35 caliber rifles all the time, but rifles in 35 Rem, 358 Win, and 35 Whelen are all in current production. Is their popularity really all that bad?
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You know, it's not that expensive to just rebarrel your rifle if you really want a .358 Norma. I think between action, stock, barrel and bluing I spent around $1,000 on the .358 Norma I built. If you have a belted magnum rifle that you aren't using, and if you have a stock you already like on it, just rebarrel for a couple hundred bucks.
Mine kicked like a fricken mule, but it was incredibly accurate.
Next one will be stainless though. +1 to just about every detail! I put a cut barrel (from Border Barrels in Scotland) on a 7mm Rem Mag to make a .358 Norma Mag. Kicks like a mule but extremely accurate just like exbiologists' I used a a blued action, but I did select a stainless barrel. Great to be able to use cheap pistol bullets for low-recoil practice! Could not do that with a .338 or .375... John - a current biologist! 
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I simply had a stainless Ruger M77 rebored. Rather rough barrel, but it shoots better than it should by a lot so I'm satisfied - and even the hard factory pad doesn't seem too bad.
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The 375/9.6mm or larger restriction in Africa for Dangerous game limits the applications. You always hear there are not any suitable bullets in 35 caliber which hasn't been true for a long time but you still hear/read it.
The Norma is about like the 35 Newton which saw some use in Africa, I think a couple of the Smithsonian expeditions were outfitted with the 35 Newton. If you can fill a museum with one they must work alright.
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