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Sized for chukars, quail, and pigeons, as well as small bumpers. Features steel construction with reinforced stress points. Lightweight for easy transport into the field. $50 each. will sell separate or together. brianzummoyahoo.com like to pics http://newyork.craigslist.org/lgi/spo/1755315147.html
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Why post this twice in the Gun Dog forums?
BTW, if you let a pup get too close to these things when you spring them, if they are a bit soft, you can wind up with a bird shy dog. And your 5 year old daughter can throw a bumper farther than these things.
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YES!!!........I found that out the hard way years ago. I thought I would never get that young female to keep from shying away from a bird that we would release in a manual launcher. I think those electric one's are even more likely to put a young dog in the gun shy state.
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Hi Tonk. I figure I've made all the mistakes you can in my 30 yrs of dog training. These are OK tools, so long as you know what you're doing. If you're a novice, its best to leave them alone. I have several, but I haven't used them in years. There're worse things than letting a dog catch a bird.
Anyway, I sorta figure if you're advertising on Craigslist, then coming here, you're a d**k and have no idea what you're doing. Other, than, maybe, trying to make money off the unsuspecting or unknowing. . .
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Huntaria Setters......You took the words right out of my mouth! Yep, I would rather see my dogs catch a bird now and then as to become totally spooky in the field over those launchers.
We simply put out birds for our young dogs and I usually mark the area within 10 yards with a golf flag, just in case I get turned around (sometimes it happens) in a big field. Now sometimes a smart dog will figure out those flags and run straight for the flag, knowing he is close to a bird. Other times I have seen them pick up the tracks of the ATV and follow it for awhile this is why I also tell the boys to run figure eights and NOT just drop off a bird in a straight line set out, be random and mix things up. You take care!
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I've shot enough NSTRA to know that dogs will follow ATV's. They'll listen for birds to call too. Some guys will train their dogs to do this. After a point, its no longer about how well a dog hunts. Its about winning regardless of how well your dog might do in the field. This is another reason I gave it up.
I will say old time Michigan grouse trials work reasonably well. There is a meaning to a "one good find".
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Manual traps work best with done dogs working on a problem. I've used re-mote traps with pups for years, but, you better know what your doing to avoid hitting the pup with it. A truely wonderful tool that can turn into a nightmare.
As for training your dog to listen for birds, I used to give a bob white whistle in training just befor a dog would hit a bird. If I wanted to pull a dog back to some certain spot durning a trial I'd give the whistle.
As for following ATV's and plkanter's foot scent, I don't care if they do. The excersise is to handle the bird right however it is found. Of course a dog that only knows how to follow off scent could be a problem to get hunting. A lot of guy's use carded pigeons to eliminate that problem, I don't do it. Nothing worse than seeing a pigeon hanging upside down from a card on a phone wire!
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