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Klik,
I have actually passed up TWO Remington 700's in 7mm Express, both in good shape and for sale at really reasonable prices at a local store.
I suspect the reason they're not pricier is that the average guy thinks he can't get ammo for 'em (and the collectors want NIB).
I should have bought one of them, then gone out and shot a few animals, in order to be able to claim "field experience" with the 7mm Express.....
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Well Jarrett used the .280 and not the Express to AI and the rest was history....grins or touche whichever works.
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John, don't go claimin' no field experience without dead animal pictures.
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7x64 = 448, which is a lot more than 280. LOL! Your logic is impeccable, but 7x57 = a lot more.
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Last year my buddy shot his elk with his 280 Remington, using Winchester ammo and the bullet did OK, but the jacket went clear through the elk without the lead part. I told him he's just asking for problems like that when he mismatches ammo and gun brands. He's looking for someone with a 280 Winchester, to sell them some ammo cheap...19 rounds. LOL! You're a bad, bad man.
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Klik,
I have actually passed up TWO Remington 700's in 7mm Express, both in good shape and for sale at really reasonable prices at a local store.
I suspect the reason they're not pricier is that the average guy thinks he can't get ammo for 'em (and the collectors want NIB).
I should have bought one of them, then gone out and shot a few animals, in order to be able to claim "field experience" with the 7mm Express..... LMAO. Too funny. All of you .280 shooters have been lying.
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Well I may have accidentally stumbled on some mislabeled factory ammunition last night. I saw a green and yellow box of Remington Core Lokts marked: 280 Remington 150 Gr PSP (Suitable for use in 7mm Express) .....Remington ought not be tellin people they can use the same ammo in two differently chambered rifles
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280 rem and 7mm express are the same, the 280 rem came out in the 50,s and in the early 80 decided to change the name, to boost its sales, and all it did was cause grief, people were trying to load 7mm rem mag into the 280 and 7mm rem exp into the mag and of course the later would chamber in the mag, and I dont know if it caused any lawsuits. but they decided to go back to 280 rem
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there the same cartridge rem just tried a new name in the 80,s and it caused prob with inexperienced shooters as the 7mm mag
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280 rem and 7mm express are the same, the 280 rem came out in the 50,s and in the early 80 decided to change the name, to boost its sales, and all it did was cause grief, people were trying to load 7mm rem mag into the 280 and 7mm rem exp into the mag and of course the later would chamber in the mag, and I dont know if it caused any lawsuits. but they decided to go back to 280 rem I'm pretty sure virtually everyone commenting here knows all that...we were mostly making jokes... . It is without question one of my all-time favorite cartridges; I've owned up to three rifles chambered to it at one time; my current tang-safety 77 I've only had 25 years, so I know a little bit about it. It does kill a lot of game, at least... . Dennis
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280 rem and 7mm express are the same, the 280 rem came out in the 50,s and in the early 80 decided to change the name, to boost its sales, and all it did was cause grief, people were trying to load 7mm rem mag into the 280 and 7mm rem exp into the mag and of course the later would chamber in the mag, and I dont know if it caused any lawsuits. but they decided to go back to 280 rem I'm pretty sure virtually everyone commenting here knows all that...we were mostly making jokes... . It is without question one of my all-time favorite cartridges; I've owned up to three rifles chambered to it at one time; my current tang-safety 77 I've only had 25 years, so I know a little bit about it. It does kill a lot of game, at least... . Dennis Thanks muledeer for pointing out we all already knew that. md, my FIL has had the same rifle for over 25 years as well....I'm pretty sure he'll be buried with it.
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285 OKH with frontal ignition. Doc
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Having no experience with "either", "7mm Express" sounds wimpy and fails to stir my blood while ".280 Remington" sounds like a cartridge I'd like to get to know... Those marketing types can sure be idiots...
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I just sold a rifle that was marked both ways: "280 Remington & 7mm Express Remington." It was a Ruger M77.
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I just sold a rifle that was marked both ways: "280 Remington & 7mm Express Remington." It was a Ruger M77. Maybe that's why they call them Model 77 Mark II's...they can be marked with two cartridge designations? I used to have one in 6mm/244Remington, which proves my point. Kinda. Well, kinda not...
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280 rem and 7mm express are the same, the 280 rem came out in the 50,s and in the early 80 decided to change the name, to boost its sales, and all it did was cause grief, people were trying to load 7mm rem mag into the 280 and 7mm rem exp into the mag and of course the later would chamber in the mag, and I dont know if it caused any lawsuits. but they decided to go back to 280 rem No schit?
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Glad you added the grin there, would have thought you were serious...
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Don't you have a Kimber that needs rebarreling?
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280 rem and 7mm express are the same, the 280 rem came out in the 50,s and in the early 80 decided to change the name, to boost its sales, and all it did was cause grief, people were trying to load 7mm rem mag into the 280 and 7mm rem exp into the mag and of course the later would chamber in the mag, and I dont know if it caused any lawsuits. but they decided to go back to 280 rem No schit? Actually a few got out the door at Remington that were stamped, 7mm-06............... MM
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How about a rifle for all conditions.
It could be stamped:
.280 rem, 7mm express, 7mm-06, .280 whelan
Four in one. Talkin' about getting your monies worth. Huh.
That would end a lot debates on ....... vs ........
Pure genius from a marketing standpoint.
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