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Maybe I'm just a recoil wimp, compared to others I read above this won't seem too bad, but the worst I ever shot was a Rem 700 Classic in .350 Rem. Mag. That thing was brutal and the pseudo "pad" they put on it might as well have been steel for all the good it did. I sold it as fast as I could.


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I let my wife shoot the .378 WBy once. In 30 years of marrage that was the only time I've heard that woman swear. "IT WAS DIRECTED AT ME" <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/blush.gif" alt="" />


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My .460 Weatherby without the Accubrake. Anyone who thinks muzzle brakes aren't needed has never shot one for any length of time. Bill T.

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Couldn't have said it better. Two shots from a 378 and one from a 460 that supposedly was ported are enough to last me a lifetime. The smith was a bit upset that I didn't want to help sight in the leafs on the express sights he had installed. <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/laugh.gif" alt="" />


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T/C .54 Hawken with 430 gr Maxi Ball and 120 gr FFg. That brass buttplate doesn't feel too good after awhile!



I shot a Hawkin Replica with a stout load of pyrodex. The thing just about jumped out of my hands! It was by far the most painful recoil I've experienced.

A close second would be a 6 pound .308 (since re-barreled to .243 win.)

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105 recoiless, lifted the damn jeep up off it's wheels every time.
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I was working at the rifle range-a yuppie lawyer type comes up with .600 Nitro Express and wants to pay me to shoot it for him. I told him I would, but if he was heading for Africa to hunt critters big enough to eat him, he ought to run a couple rounds through it too. (I was hoping I'd get out of shooting it, but no dice.) I charged him $20.00 bucks to shoot it, and thank god the sights were right on. I took one shot at 50 yards, and it knocked me clear off the bench. I almost dropped the rifle. One shot at 100 yards-I stayed with it a little better that time, maintaining my composure. Both shots on the bullseye. I hurt so bad the next morning I could barely lift my arm. Man, what a gun!

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I greatly enjoyed reading the stories that others have posted here. The one I'm going to relate next really doesn't fall under the category of "hardest kickers" but I guess it fits in here as good as any place.

I'm a teacher by trade, and as such I have a lot of stories that relate to students that are quite amusing - and one of these stories relates to young student of mine and the gun he owned.

The boy's name was Billy, he was one of those kids that really makes a teacher earn his money trying to teach him. He was a nice enough kid, but while the rest of the world was wired in 110, Billy seemed to be wired with 220. The one thing that enabled us to get along really well was the fact that Billy loved to talk guns with me. I could always get Billy to work for me, by promising him that if he kept on task later on we could talk guns.

Billy had been bothering his mother for quite some time, bugging her to buy him of varmint gun. He wanted a rifle that would be good for ground squirrels, groundhogs, crows and the like. Being that he was only in grade 8, and had in the past shown some lapses of judgment, his mother didn't think it best that she by a rifle till he had a few more years of maturity under his belt. She did get him a gun, but she told him that he would have to make do with the BB gun until he was a few years older.

Billy was away from school for a few days, and when he came into class he was a mess. He had black eyes, a bent nose, a puffy lip and numerous stitches all over his face. It turns out that Billy had decided he could build a rifle.

They say that little knowledge is a dangerous thing, and a little knowledge is all that Billy had when it came to firearms. Being a creative sort of a kid, Billy had decided that he could build himself of varmint rifle using his BB gun as a starting point. As unbelievable as this sounds, Billy decided that it was very easy to have a high-powered rifle. All he had to do was use your head and a little ingenuity.

What Billy had done to make his "worst kicking rifle" was to take his high-powered BB gun that his mother had bought him and modify it into a rifle. Billy did this by taking some duct tape and taping a 22-250 cartridge that he acquired from a friend on to the end of his BB gun barrel. Billy's logic dictated that the BB would go down the barrel high-speed, contact the primer, detonate it and then when the rifle cartridge went off the bullet would go towards the intended target a crow sitting in a tree about 100 yards away.

After pulling the trigger, Billy awoke looking up right while laying flat on his back surrounded by a number of concern looking neighbors who'd come to the sound of the explosion. Shrapnel was embedded all across the front of Billy's face, but fortunately (for Billy's health) none of it in a spot that would harm him permanently. As you can imagine all the BB did was to detonate the 22-250 cartridge duct taped to the end of his barrel, and without having a barrel to enclose it-it just exploded.

They say that all is well that ends well and in this case Billy got lucky. He returned to class somewhat sheepish looking and for the first time in his life that I can recall he didn't feel like talking about his hunting experiences with the rest of his classmates. When I remember Billy's story, I can't say that I can compare to many "hardest kicker" with that one. It's not everyone who can say that they once pulled the trigger on a rifle and woke up sometime later after having been knocked out and bloodied by a mere varmint round.

Billy has now grown up and has learned a few things since then but this particular teacher delights in reminding him whenever I see them now and again by saying "Remember when..." LOL!


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A Steyr in .458 Win Mag. The rifle, as nice as it was, weighed only a shade over 7lbs and it was a brute on the shoulder. A rather large friend of mine thought it a good idea to try to shoot a couple of rounds in quick succession and the result nearly made him puke!

I've shot a .500NE double and it was quite manageable given its weight but that Steyr was the worst kicking rifle I've ever shot.

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The absolute worst kicker I've had the "pleasure" of firing was a .500 A-Square. A rather wealthy customer of ours who loved big bores special ordered it. He got several hundred rounds of A-Square factory loads with it which was just .460 brass necked up. Mr. Money-Bags decided "we" needed to shoot all this ammo so the shoulders of the cases would be blown out in fire-forming. He'd come in the shop every day for about a week and he, I and another co-worker of mine would go back on the range and shoot as many rounds as we could stand during a session. My limit was about 8 rounds per day. It was brutal. A buddy of mine had a .460 Wby. and I shot it a fair amount but it couldn't compare to the .500. During one of our fire-forming sessions, another regular customer dropped in. This guy was one of those know-it-all S.O.B.'s who just annoyed the hell out of everybody. We called him "Windy". He thought we called him that because his last name was Windham but we really called him that because he was a wind-bag! Anyway, we were all talking about how brutal the .500 was and Windy started calling us wimps and saying how recoil didn't bother him because he could "metally block out pain." To the best of my knowledge he had never shot anything bigger than a .375 H&H. We coaxed him back on the range and put the .500 in his hands. You could tell he was nervous but he put on a brave face and touched one off. He was obviously shaken but composed himself and turned around to face us while saying "That's not all that bad." The rifle's owner reached out, took the gun from Windy and said "Son, I'd appreciate it if you'd stop bleeding on my new gun!" Blood was streaming from his nose! That was one of the funniest things I ever witnessed and I still burst out laughing when I think of ol' Windy tucking his tail between his legs and ducking out of that range with blood all over his face and shirt! I still see the guy once in awhile at gun shows and the current gun shop I work in and he's much more humble these days.

As bad as that A-Square was to shoot, the most painful thing I ever shot was a side by side 12 ga hammer gun that someone had cut the stock off behind the pistol grip. Someone brought it in to be sold on consignment and I took it on the range to make sure it shot. I held it at my side, cocked both hammers and pulled the front trigger. BOTH barrels went off at once and the recoil drove the left hammer into my side, ripping my shirt and cutting a pretty deep gash in my side. God-almighty did that hurt! Needless to say I "kindly" asked the owner to get that P.O.S. out of the store! I still have the scar.

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The only two guns I remember ever actually HURTING me were a shotgun and a rifle.

When I was in Jr. High, my uncle, one of the most miserly fellows I've ever known, decided he had the key to making "free money." He'd go buy a shotgun with the longest barrel he could find, and march purposefully to the first turkey shoot he could find. He'd been to one recently with a drinking buddy, and found it amazing at the amount of money that flowed at these events.

Well, Uncle Lehmon didn't know a lot about shotguns, and wound up buying an old, light Crescent single 12 ga. with a 32" barrel. He was as proud as a peacock when he showed it to Dad and me, and proclaimed that he was really gonna' clean up at the turkey shoot that Saturday with that long barrel. I knew a little back then, due to reading mostly, and asked him what the choke was on it. "Choke?" he asked. I could tell right away that I'd probably opened a can of worms here, and knowing how miserly Uncle Lehmon was, I was instantly very sorry I'd uttered the question.

Truth has a way of coming forth sooner or later, though, and when he pestered me for more info, I reluctantly and respectfully tried to explain to him what choke was and how it worked - sort of like the nozzle on a hose, and all that. I could tell that he was starting to become very UN-pleased with his new purchase already, even before shooting it, but he declared that he'd better shoot it and find out before laying forth any of his precious pennies on it at the shoot.

We put up a sheet of newspaper and backed off what he figured was the distance they shot the targets at. He asked me to shoot it because he knew I was a pretty fair shot. The gun was built like some of the old muzzleloaders that had lots of drop at heel and comb. I knew it was going to rise a lot, but I wasn't fully prepared for what that gun did.

Fella's, a light 12-ga. with lots of drop and a razor sharp comb will DEFINIETLY get your attention. I felt so bad for him, knowing how miserly he was, that I actually shot it twice. I guess I figured I deserved the punishment after bursting his bubble the way I had. Bruised cheek and shoulder for over a week, and I healed QUICK back then!

Next session was with a buddy's Browning B-78 in .45/70. That one had a straight checkered grip, a lot of drop at heel and a crescent steel butt plate. Naturally, my buddy hadn't had it long before we discussed the potential of the gun at its upper limits. I was over at his house for a drink or two, and we perused all the manuals to find the hardest hittin' load we could find. One of the Speer manuals listed 63 gr. of RE-7 with a 400 gr. bullet at something over 2000 fps., if memory serves me. I had some 400 gr. cast bullets, which will usually get MORE velocity with a given load than the jacketed, so I backed off to an even 60 gr. and loaded up 5 rounds.

That weekend, at the bench, he INSISTED I do the honors. He and another buddy used to use me as their guinea pig for testing any hard kicking loads they'd come up with. The other buddy actually thought the old BPE loads kicked, but that's another story.

How could I deny a buddy the "honor" of firing first with HIS rifle? I couldn't. So .... I sat down at the bench, adjusted the rest and bags, and set the rifle on the bags. I looked up at my buddy, and the first pangs of doubt started to set in. They grew a bit as I turned back to the gun and slid one of the hellbenders in the rifle, cammed the breech shut, and gently nestled into the stock and bags. My buddy, ever the one to give timely advice, noted "This ought to be FUN!" I rose from my shooting position briefly, just long enough to give him a disdainful look for his lack of faith, and solemly and disdainfully returned to my shooting position. The rifle had a scope, and the only rings he could get at the time were high. There was no way to see anything but the back of the mounts if you had any cheek contact. Hmmmm, I thought. No cheek contact, practically .... crescent steel butt, and it IS kinda' sticking into the side of my chest whenever I get comfortable .... but did I listen to what Thomas Magnum called "that still small voice" in my head? Noooooooo, dear hearts! I was FAR too macho and inurred for THAT! I just raised my head so that I could see the aiming point. No sense just whacking something off without seeing where it's shooting, right????

Then the moment came - I had to pull the trigger. I could hear my buddy giggling immediately behind me, so there was NO way I'd EVER break off this little exercise NOW. Finally, I managed to ease that trigger back ever so gently .... possibly in the vain hope that the rifle would do likewise. It didn't.

Booooommmmm went the rifle! SKYWARD went that muzzle, taking it clean off the bags, and well on its way to the stratosphere! DOWN went my head, cheek firmly impaling itself on that hard comb ..... BACK went that crescent steel torture device, directly into the side of my chest, ripping flesh like a madman's razor! I can't say quite what happened next. Forgive me, but the memory's a bit "fuzzy." All I know is that the rifle somehow (luck?) fell back onto the bags, avoiding skinning the shiny new finish on the nice wood. The next thing I remember is hearing my "buddy" (???) saying, "Dang! .... Well, what was it like?"

Stunned, but with my mind gradually clearing and conciousness returning .... albeit at a rather slow pace .... I did the only thing ANY good man would do - I responded, "Not that bad .... HERE .... YOU TRY IT NOW."

It was my finest hour as an actor. It MUST have been, because of all things that could have happened, my buddy actually paused a moment, obviously weighing this decision very soberly ..... well, weighing it nevertheless ..... and THEN he ACTUALLY said, "O.K. My turn now," and he grabbed one of the hellbenders and took my place at the bench. I didn't let on at all. My shoulder was numb, and the side of my chest at the armpit burned, but the numbness seemed to allay the pain a bit, actually, so I kept a straight face and very matter of factly encouraged my "buddy" onward. I tried to tell him to try to get some cheek contact, but did he LISTEN???? Heck no! Why he was even MORE macho than I, by golly, and he was darn well fixin' ta' PROVE it. And he did, too!

He went through the regimen, and I noted that he was having some problems getting his eye in the right spot with those high mounts and the low drop of the comb and heel. Of course, I was no longer concerned for his health and well being, since he'd so adamantly assured me that he knew how all this stuff's done, so ..... I just sat there awaiting my revenge. I got it, too!

At the shot, the muzzle climbed even further skyward than it had when I'd shot it, only THIS time, when its upward momentum finally ceased and was overcome by gravity, it fell HARD on the bench beside the rest, dinging the forearm pretty good. Back went the butt, and down went his head onto that hard comb, just as above, and ..... well, I can't print here just what his NEXT verbalization was, but he immediately flung himself from the bench holding his arm, and his words had something to do with the rifle's ancestry, though how it had come from a she-dog is beyond my imagination. After a few more expletives deleted, he looked at me with the eyes of a paranoid schizo in a panic state, and noted my gentle, bubbly attitude toward the proceedings at hand. He didn't seem to appreciate my levity at the time, and made a comment about my own ancestry. "You KNEW that thing was going to kick the **** out of me!"

At this point, my acting ability completely failed me. Guess I'll never be a Hollywood star, because I lost it completely, and began laughing so hard I had to sit down. As badly as he hated doing it, my buddy joined me once his marbles all settled back to somewhere in the vicinity of where they'd started this little exercise at.

We now joke about it, but that gun left marks on my shoulder for well over a week. It really doesn't take a terribly powerful round to hurt you. Just load 'er up nice and warm, and shoot it from something designed by the Marquis de Sade, and you'll get a "lesson" in stock design you'll NEVER forget!

Oh, and for y'all boys who shoot the old guns with the crescent butts, I've since learned that you place these on your ARM, and NOT on the shoulder where they can tear your chest walls open. Silly me! Timing has a LOT to do with information's usefulness, doesn't it?

Enjoyed these stories. Now that I'm older, I see less and less merit in getting kicked any more than necessary. I guess that's why I love my Ackley Whelen and the Marlin Guide Gun .45/70, eh? Some of us NEVER learn, do we???? <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/wink.gif" alt="" />

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bearstalker I have the savage model 110 in 300 WIN Mag. Its got the birch stock and original kick pad. I can make it 2 shots some times 3 before my hat come completely off my head. <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/grin.gif" alt="" /> This is the gun that my dad bought me in 6th grade for hunting elk. Because according to him a 270 or '06 isnt big enough. Mine will be going in the paper soon.

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The worst ever was one of the original Mossberg 835, 3-1/2 ", 12 GA, with 3-1/2 " Turkey Loads. No muzzle break, no nothing. It was unbearable to pattern without a sandbag between the gun and my shoulder. Also, usually, when shooting at game, you don't notice the recoil. Not so with this gun. It was a killer. I no longer own it and still manage to kill turkeys with 3" loads.

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A club member once let me shoot his Weatherby MKV in .460 Wby.Mag. (an older Japan one with the tiny pin-holed porting) with 500gr SP reloads. The porting must have helped (and the heavy factory barrel), because I fired 4 shots and had no pain. But man that thing was a bear of a rifle!

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Had a friend that had a african grade .458, with as issued recoil pad and iron sights. Factory 510 sp. was the ammo. Shot it twice standing up, and didn't think that was tooo bad, then proceeded to SIT at my shooting bench and get the iron sights in for him. Well........sixteen shots later[even with a sandbag against my shoulder] it was definately time for LOTS OF WHISKEY and a little water! WHEW!!!!

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In order, more or less.
1. The .378 Weatherby and a .460 Weatherby with the barrel cut back to 22 inches.
2. A 4-bore black-powder rifle with a steel buttplate.
3. A .577 Westley Richards double rifle that doubled, although due to the fact that it weighed 18 poounds, it didn't hurt.

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had a buddy of ours who builds muzzleloaders. he even rifles his own barrels. he is a fan of big bore muzzleloaders. he has one that he made where he will get 4 balls to the pound of lead. His light load was 250grains of black powder. it had a steel but plate. and when you shot it, it would acctually twist with the ball as it went down the barrel if you didnt have a TIGHT grip on it well he had this guy who wanted to buy it and take it hunting in africa. so they went out to test shoot it. his first and only shot was off hand. and as the gun went off it twisted and came up out of his hand. I'm not sure how it exactly happened but the hammer ended up ripping a large gash in his cheek. He changed his mind after that about buying it.

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I was out at the range checking the sight in of my 300 win mag and an older man, that I had shot with previously, was there sighting in his muzzleloaders........He had a 45 caliber TC Cherokee......I'd guess it weighed around 5 pounds or less.......I walked over to talk to him and asked if he had it ready for deer season......he said it kicked too much for him and asked if I would shoot it.......I figured he was just old and that the recoil couldn't be all that bad......so I agreed to help him sight it in. He handed me the rifle, I lined it up and touched it off......I saw stars and felt like I had been hit in the cheek by Mike Tyson! Even though my eyes were watering and my cheek was throbbing, I agreed to shoot it again (DUH!)......I figured I must not have had a good hold on it........he loaded it up and handed it to me.....second shot......same thing, only this time, I honestly thought it had broken my cheekbone! About that time I decided something was very wrong! I enquired about the load and he showed me what he had been shooting........a 325 grain buffalo bullet and 90 grains of Pyrodex "P" powder! NO WONDER I felt like I had been hit with a sledgehammer.....I HAD!!! I explained to the old man that TC never intended for the little cherokee to fire a 325 grain bullet in front of 90 grains of pistol powder! I suggested that he load it with a roundball and that was the end of that conversation!

Second hardest was a 450 Watts on a Mauser action in a Butler Creek tupperware stock.......WAY too light and a very poor stock for hard kickers! It would make your eyes water when you touched it off!


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I test fired a gun after repairing it, and it kicked so hard I went looking for a bottle of aspirin. It was a 20 gauge Ithaca 37 pump called the ultra featherweight. It had an aluminum reciever and an English style pistol grip. Very nice looking.
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My first 458 lott weighed right about 9#, and with 500's loaded over 90 some grains of VV N550, it was unpleasant to shoot off the bench. The same stock that held that barrelled action now holds a 10+ pound 500 Jeffrey, and the starting loads of 100 gr Varget over a 600 gr pill for 2200 fps is definately more recoil, it isn't as bad.

The most painful gun I've ever fired was an S&W scantium 357 mag, and like a dummy, I fired the full cylinder full. You could get the same sensation by just beating your hand with a 16 oz ball pein hammer. The biggest handgun recoil was a 4 5/8" super blackhawk that was converted to a 500 Linbaugh, and loaded to the gills with 440 gr cast, whippy is an understatement.

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