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Gentlemen:
I'm considering a Kahr for a new concealed carry piece.
The company's web site explains the reasons why the CW is about $200 less than the P series, but aside from the fixed polymer sights, the "conventional rifling", the MIM slide stop lever, and the one less magazine ...
is there any reason to believe the CW won't perform just as well as the P?
Thanks.
- Tom
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both are too heavy IMO for deep concealment. I think one has a little longer barrel and weights a little more, but thats about it. I think you need something under 13oz with clip and loaded up with ammo. to me that is the point where you can carry the gun and forget its there.
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Either will perform well.. If this is to be a concealed carry type pistol, get the lightest one you can obtain.
I carry a P-9 and don't even know it's there..
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Thanks. Thinking the CW9 is the way to go, for me.
- Tom
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FYI, I carry a P-9. It's a good pistol. Works when I pull the trigger, easy to carry.
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I have had three CW's and one P model. One of the differences is the CW's have plastic sights, not a real factor in the one's I carried and on the CW's the grip panels are molded into the grip frame and not removeable which makes fitting a Crimson trace lasergrip impossible. FWIW, I liked the CW's BETTER as the P models magazine release spring was too light and would allow the clip to come flying out at a bad time too easily b ut this was largely because I have really big hands and fingers and my thumb would hit the release button upon firing, at least on the one I had. After trying to carry them all in my front pockets for several years I finally sold my last one (the P40)a couple of months ago and bought a Kel Tech P9 which fits much better and is lighter as well. Just as reliable and put a couple of C notes BACK into my gun fund on the transactions. Good reiable guns that feed most any ammo, but a tad too heavy still for me for everyday deep cover carrying i.e. in the front pockets of whatever pants or shorts I am wearing.
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My choice, CW-9
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I have a CW9 and a CW45. I love the cw9 for it's concealibility with the power of a full house 9mm, very accurate at 9 yards and never jams with my reloads. The 124g hp at 1200 fps out of this pistol is no slouch load.
If you want to carry a pistol in your front pocket, then the Ruger 380 or Kel tec (380)is the way to go 95g HP at 900 fps.
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I'm pleased that so many like the CW9.
Obviously, it isn't going to be my front pants pocket carry piece, and a little Kel-Tec is probably in my future to replace the NAA .22 mag that sits there now.
- Tom
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We have a couple of CW9's. If I was looking for something to carry in the front pocket, I would look at the Kahr P-380. I think it weighs half what the CW9 weighs. Both our CW9's have been nothing but reliable.
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I carry a CW40. It is not too large to carry. If I was going with a 9mm strictly for CCW, you may want to look at a PM9.
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I'm pleased that so many like the CW9.
Obviously, it isn't going to be my front pants pocket carry piece, and a little Kel-Tec is probably in my future to replace the NAA .22 mag that sits there now.
- Tom
I chose the PM9 over the CW9 because is was just enough shorter to work great as a pocket pistol for me. If you can find a shop with one in stock check it out in person...
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I have a PM 9, excellent carry pistol. Another difference is the insides of the CCWs aren't finished as well as the PMs, or Ps I guess. The inside of my PM is finished as well as the outside.
It's an extremely accurate pistol. I'd buy another in a heartbeat. I don't know about the CWs, but the factory reccommends at least 200 rounds to break the pistol in. Mine never hiccuped, but I understand some do at first.
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My daughters did, trigger wouldn't reset all the time. Sent it back to Kahr and they replaced some parts and after exactly 200 rounds it now works flawlessly. We just took a CW9 in on trade for a PM9, I am thinking of taking it for a test run.
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I have both the pm9 and the cw9 both have preformed with 0 issues from day one. I bought the Pm for pocket carry (IMO) its still at least for me a little bulky for carry in a jeans pocket,Both are accurate and nice for (IWB).
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tjm, there's but one caution I'd give you toward the CW series. IF you ever hope to install night-sights, it's impossible with that model. The P-series have a dovetailed installation, and replacement is easy-peezy. OTHER than that....good to go.
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Actually kahr now has night sights available from Trijicon for the CW pistols. Dawson precision also make one. Its just staked not that hard to change.
The CW9 is a great carry pistol. Just make sure you clean it really good when you get it. A bottle of brake clean is your best friend. Those suckers come from the factory nasty!
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To me, the CW40 has a much snappier recoil than the CW45. Pistols of mine that will never get sold are the CW9, CW45, and Taurus compact 9mm with it's 13 shots(slightly larger than the CW9).
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