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Like I said, volumes...You sound all worked up?? I'm sorry.

I've seen a few mule deer on the move, a high mag rifle scope would have done exactly nothing, in the useful department.

Fretting a dink getting away is not a concern..If your after the first decent buck, and can live with what you have on the ground, go ahead and use ur rifle scope, no skin off my nuts, but the fact you get all butt hurt over it is more than a bit funny.

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love the "mirage" angle too LOL


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I'm not sure I ever told anybody what scope to use. I just stated my experiences and how I do what I do. Take it or leave it, as I'm sure you have your mind made up.

Also Jon, you pulled a sentence fragment out, without reading the entire sentence and paragraph about "wind". I was clearly referring to using the wind to my advantage, as to get enough time to look over game via a spotter, before they detect my scent and head for cover.

If I were mountain hunting, and game I spotted was moving away from me only giving me "precious seconds", I'd really rethink how I was doing things.

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Originally Posted by rosco1
If your after the first decent buck, and can live with what you have on the ground,

If that was the case, I'd just shoot it with the 6X and live with whatever it was. That's what the 6X fans are advocating. Actually seeing the critter well allows me to not pull the triger on a "dink." Tough concept apparently.
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but the fact you get all butt hurt over it is more than a bit funny.

If I was butt hurt, I might make something up about the safety of anybody who uses different equipment than me. Oh wait, that's what you did.
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love the "mirage" angle too LOL

I see you still haven't learned to use your equipment. Maybe you should look into taking a class or something? Next time I'm in Montana give me a ring and I'll come over and show you what that knob on the side of your scope is for.

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Originally Posted by JonA
Maybe there are never any other hunters where you hunt so you can literally count on anything you see being there all day long? Boy, that must make things tough.

If every critter you've ever gotten allows you to put down your pack, get out a spotting scope, set up the spotting scope.... please do tell me how much you bribe the guards at the zoo. There are times this is the case and in those times a spotting scope is a wonderful tool to have. There are other times when it's not.


To be honest with you.. No, I don't have to worry about other hunters. I hike far enough in to my spots that it isn't a concern to me.

If I don't have the drop on the animal, and I don't have time to pull out the spotter and lean it across my pack to take a better look.. That particular animal lives for me to hunt another day.

Since you admitted to hunting in a place with hunting pressure, wouldn't it be prudent for you to always look things over very carefully with bino's or a spotter before scoping in on an animal? What if some guy had crept within 20 yards of that animal, and you are waving a weapon at him?

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"If I was butt hurt, I might make something up about the safety of anybody who uses different equipment than me. Oh wait, that's what you did."

Is that right? Please do quote me, anything I said about safety.(dont bother looking, it aint there)
Talk about making chit up.

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I just stated my experiences and how I do what I do. Take it or leave it, as I'm sure you have your mind made up.

Do what? Kill something at 250 yds? This is the Long Range Section.
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I was clearly referring to using the wind to my advantage,

Maybe when you start shooting long range, you'll realize when you "read the wind" before a shot, what that means.

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Originally Posted by JonA

If that was the case, I'd just shoot it with the 6X and live with whatever it was. That's what the 6X fans are advocating.


That is a gross misrepresentation and you know it. We are advocating using higher power binos and spotters to look over the game before pointing a rifle at it.

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You've never shot something without a spotting scope or 15X binocs? I find that hard to believe, even if you do hunt in a zoo.

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Originally Posted by rosco1

Talk about making chit up.


I'll pay close attention to what SU says.. But this Jon guy is just pulling stuff out of his ass now.

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He's a bit sensitive.

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Originally Posted by rosco1
Please do quote me, anything I said about safety.

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Bino's for finding, spotter for judging, rifle scope for killing. if you want to use a rifle scope for all three,

"Finding" the animals with the rifle scope is unsafe. That was your implication "that spoke volumes."

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Originally Posted by Calvin
But this Jon guy is just pulling stuff out of his ass now.

Did you watch the video? Please post some of yours. Let's see how good a shot your ass is.

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Oh, your psychic now...You aint even close to catching my drift, but thats no surprise.

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Jon,

REALLY ring the bell and post some of your Huge Critters,that were sluiced due to high X's.

Thought so....................(laffin')

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WTF would I watch a video? How is that going to change the fact that you misrepresent what people post, have terrible reading comprehension, and most of us don't have a gear low enough to even respond to your babble.

Anybody can put together a LR rifle and go take shots a [bleep] beyond 400 yards. My 14 year old can do it. But, if everything is running away from you at those ranges, you might want to put the "Hunting" back in Long Range Hunting.

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Allow her to "quantify" her High X Results first.

It'll be funny................

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A couple of the latest:
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Doe only tag, nice to be darn sure she didn't have any spikes hiding next to those ears:

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So stick, going to answer the questions on the wind? Describe your technique? Nevermind, in order to do that you'd need to actually have one.
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you misrepresent what people post, have terrible reading comprehension,

Like this?
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if everything is running away from you at those ranges,

Did I say anything about shooting running animals? Or ones that are even moving at all? Knowing an animal isn't going to be standing like a statue for the next 1/2 hour from situation awareness and reading body language and shooting at running animals are quite different things. But you knew that, didn't you?

You guys are a real blast. Nary an answer to a technical question, not a single challenge on a technical point, (those would require some technical knowledge) you've conceded loss on the merits.

So let's call him "sensitive," let's call him "butt hurt" or let's call him "a 'her'." Boy, that really gets me. Yawn.

You guys need to take this 6X scope show on the road to some real LR or Tactical sites. Oh yeah, BS actually has several times where he gets laughed at and kicked out eventually. Tell them Sniper guys they need to trade in their high power NF, S&B, Premiers, etc, for a 6X42 Lupy. 'Cause it's the most bestest--or however he says it.

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Originally Posted by rosco1

Fretting a dink getting away is not a concern..If your after the first decent buck, and can live with what you have on the ground, go ahead and use ur rifle scope, no skin off my nuts, but the fact you get all butt hurt over it is more than a bit funny.


You nailed it.

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Jon,

I apologize. We assumed you actually cared about the quality of the animals you shot. My bad..

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