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What kind of attorney would send his criminal client to a courtroom to plead guilty to a criminal charge without the lawyer being present??
prolly one of those low bid ones i mentioned earlier
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A [bleep]' stupid one, that's what kind.
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BTW - curdog, if you're being honest, then honestly, you're a DSMFer and a disgrace. Folks like you make attorneys a good bit of money, and rightfully so, as you continually violate the "stupidity clause".
Personally, and having defended several like you, the best verdict is a big, steaming cup of STFU and likely jail time before you end up killing someone.
Of course, seeing what a habitual DWI defendant can do to a family when that POS takes a car with a mom and two kids (she was sober, drunk crossed completely into her lane) head-on will occasionally make a difference.
Then again, you're different, right? Just like he was.....
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Um happens more than I am comfortable with. how about during trial defense moves for a mistrial because teenage victim blurts extranious statement. During lunch break prosecution realizes that the confession should have been suppressed by defense counsel and raises the issue to the court. Court grants defendant's motion for mistrial but because defense counsel agreed that they dropped the ball. Does double jeapardy apply?
How about morning of trial on a homicide judge enters an order barring defendant's self defense witnesses for failing to disclose 30 days prior to trial(defense HAD filed a motion to bar the states rebuttal witnesses for failing to disclose 5 days prior to trial) Counsel admitts they screwed up but argued the State should ask for a continuance- court asked if they were asking to continue- at which point they thought that it was a good idea( then counsel turned to defendant and asked if he agreed).
The original point was wjy plead not guilty when they have you dead to rights. 1. Because you are not dead to rights until a defense attorney says so then whine for a deal 2. Because a jury says so- pucker up the judge is going to give you a little extra 3. Because you have nothing to loose 4. Because you listen to the jail house lawyers(dealing with one that is why the reference).
Last one off the top of my head- Defense counsel takes the 20 grand, puts the defendant on at trial to admit to the crime and gets double what the prosecution was offereing.
First and only rule of defense attorneys- if someone is going to jail, make sure it is your client.
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What kind of attorney would send his criminal client to a courtroom to plead guilty to a criminal charge without the lawyer being present?? [/quote]
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You're all over the place,dude!!
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First and only rule of defense attorneys- if someone is going to jail, make sure it is your client.
No, that is the second rule and not the only rule. The first rule and the only other rules is: "Get paid in full, up front."
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Coss is definitely a trial lawyer!!
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One in Jack CTY TX -pled guilty we/o lawyer . Fine and probation . One in Tarrant Cty TX - Lawyer got it thrown out . One in Young CTY Tx - pled down to unlawful carrying of weapon . One in Chickasha OK -- Lawyer I paid 1500 bucks [ 1980 dollars ] got drunk and didn't show up . Found guilty by judge who was talking to his girlfriend on the phone while he was holding my "trial " . Paid fine .No probation . One in Archer Cty Tx . Plea deal worked out by lawyers . Fine and probation . Never lost my license . Because of shorter " enhancement periods " back then , each one was a first offense . You spoke some truth earlier : Fact is that I had no business on the hiway if my BAC was LESS than .010 .No accidents from being drunk . [ that by the grace of God , obviously ] FWIW THe gov't or nobody [ including me ] spent a dime sobering me up . And I have a CCL . End of answers . No more questions . Have a good day . Posterity sake.
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I am but I am trying to respond to a defendant's bs suppression motion at the same time.
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In what capacity are you responding?
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I am but I am trying to respond to a defendant's bs suppression motion at the same time.
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Ahh, we have true believer here.
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KRAKPOT is another DSMFer DD/TRH clone with zero experience, is my guess. And, given the evidence at hand, I reckon my position safe.
BTW - who left the "Dumbasses welcome" sign on this time?
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Um happens more than I am comfortable with. how about during trial defense moves for a mistrial because teenage victim blurts extranious statement. During lunch break prosecution realizes that the confession should have been suppressed by defense counsel and raises the issue to the court. Court grants defendant's motion for mistrial but because defense counsel agreed that they dropped the ball. ===============
Yeah,I think so,Sean. He's left out about 4-5 things/facts I can think of right off the top of my head!
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10 years currently elected county attorney. Spew all you want, a crappy defense attorney will get you more time than non at all. K
I can give you the Supreme Court case ifn you want the 20 page version, I am sure there are more facts that you could find in support of a position.
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10 years currently elected county attorney. Spew all you want, a crappy defense attorney will get you more time than non at all. K
Only if he is unpopular.
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A drunk driver will [bleep] up somehow else along the way. Like maybe killing an innocent family....... Not a good enough reason to let 'em keep weaving down the road IMO.
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10 years currently elected county attorney. Spew all you want, a crappy defense attorney will get you more time than non at all. K
I can give you the Supreme Court case ifn you want the 20 page version, I am sure there are more facts that you could find in support of a position. some of the most pain in the arse, idiotic lawyers ive ever come across are elected county attorneys....just like some of the most worthless law enforcement officers ive known are elected county sheriffs......
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BTW - who left the "Dumbasses welcome" sign on this time?
My bad, now where's that damn switch.....
Deal with it.
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BTW - curdog, if you're being honest, then honestly, you're a DSMFer and a disgrace. Folks like you make attorneys a good bit of money, and rightfully so, as you continually violate the "stupidity clause".
Personally, and having defended several like you, the best verdict is a big, steaming cup of STFU and likely jail time before you end up killing someone.
Of course, seeing what a habitual DWI defendant can do to a family when that POS takes a car with a mom and two kids (she was sober, drunk crossed completely into her lane) head-on will occasionally make a difference.
Then again, you're different, right? Just like he was..... If I ever get back your way we'll talk about it .Personally , I have no use for hypocritical tee- totalers and obviously you've never driven when your BAC was over the limit . That's not a question . I wouldn't expect an honest answer from the likes of you . I'm content to be judged by folks that know me . The ones who knew me drunk and the ones that have known me sober for over 25 years . You are real quick on the verbal trigger , BIGMOUTH . Thought they taught better than that in law school, or , are you another TRH ? I'm going to a meeting and I'm done with you .
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