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Yep, the Spanish are white Europeans in case anybody was unaware.

Entertaining but mostly fiction!

Right next to the Heckowees....

I was thinking that!!!!!

Hey Mudhen, can you explain why THEY NEVER SURRENDERED is mostly fiction?? Just curious. Thanks.

Well Birdie,

Based upon your recommendation I picked up the book and just finished it. I agree that it is a excellent read. Thanks for letting me know about it.

Most amusing quote I found was "The kind of anarchy that gives anarchy a bad name".

It had an interesting take on those parts of Mexican Law Enforcement that decided to become profit centers. And on those that didn't.

For folks in Fairfax County Virginia, it's back in the Reston Library.

Chuck

There are a lot of Mestizos around. That is why the old families here stress that they are Spanish, (complete with red hair and blue eyes).

The stories of lost tribes are interesting, any of them left now will be assimilated into the Mexican population. I remember Ishi from years ago, before the last big TV stuff on him.

As for living as an outlaw in the backcountry; try any of the survivalist nuts, or other cultures living on the fringe is "modern" society. I am also reminded of the WW2 Japanese that laid low in the Phillipines clear into the 60''s.

I read it too...Good read. Puts a lot of things in perspective.

The quick answer is that after reading it (along with the "autobiography" of Nino Chochise), I became very curious and did a lot of serious research, aided by the Arizona Historical Society and the kind efforts of some very serious historians. The events and dates don't hold up very well, and those that do sort of match cannot be verified.

I consulted a lot of original sources, contemporary accounts, diaries and some exhaustive newspaper research. You would be surprised at the number of periodicals that were publishing in those days and reporting any and all rumors along with the occasional first hand report. In addition, a lot of this has been revisited by other historians who have spent more time, energy and effort than I could afford to expend.

Both of the aforementioned books were written and published for the same reason that Charlie Siringo admitted to published his tales of trail driving and working as a detective for the Pinkerton Agency: "to make money". Charlie adhered quite a bit closer to the truth...