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Would someone be kind enough to run this in Quickload for me?
Remington 7600 18.5 inch barrel
30-06 Sprng.
RP Brass, CCI 200 primers, 49 grains IMR 4895, 165 grain hornady BTSP. OAL to bullet tip (3.28 inches).
I know IMR 4895 is not the "best" for 165 grainers in the 30-06 but my rifle loves this combination. Was curious what Quickload says in terms of pressure, etc.
Thanks a lot!
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Using the defaults, QuickLOAD thinks you should be good to about 53.0g of IMR 4895. Pressure at 49g is estimated at 47K PSI. Cartridge : .30-06 Spring. (SAAMI)
Bullet : .308, 165, Hornady BTSP 3045
Useable Case Capaci: 61.410 grain H2O = 3.987 cm�
Cartridge O.A.L. L6: 3.280 inch = 83.31 mm
Barrel Length : 18.5 inch = 469.9 mm
Powder : IMR 4895
Predicted data by increasing and decreasing the given charge,
incremented in steps of 1.0% of nominal charge.
CAUTION: Figures exceed maximum and minimum recommended loads !
Step Fill. Charge Vel. Energy Pmax Pmuz Prop.Burnt B_Time
% % Grains fps ft.lbs psi psi % ms
-10.0 78 44.10 2295 1929 35732 10647 93.7 1.239
-09.0 79 44.59 2319 1970 36752 10786 94.1 1.224
-08.0 80 45.08 2343 2012 37799 10922 94.6 1.207
-07.0 81 45.57 2368 2054 38874 11056 95.0 1.191
-06.0 81 46.06 2392 2097 39977 11187 95.4 1.175
-05.0 82 46.55 2417 2140 41108 11316 95.8 1.159
-04.0 83 47.04 2441 2183 42270 11442 96.2 1.143
-03.0 84 47.53 2465 2227 43462 11565 96.5 1.128
-02.0 85 48.02 2489 2271 44685 11686 96.9 1.113
-01.0 86 48.51 2514 2315 45940 11803 97.2 1.098
+00.0 87 49.00 2538 2360 47229 11918 97.5 1.083
+01.0 87 49.49 2562 2405 48551 12030 97.8 1.069
+02.0 88 49.98 2586 2450 49908 12138 98.1 1.055
+03.0 89 50.47 2610 2496 51301 12243 98.3 1.042 ! Near Maximum !
+04.0 90 50.96 2634 2542 52731 12345 98.6 1.028 ! Near Maximum !
+05.0 91 51.45 2658 2588 54199 12443 98.8 1.015 ! Near Maximum !
Results caused by � 5% powder lot-to-lot burning rate variation using nominal charge
Data for burning rate increased by 5% relative to nominal value:
+Ba 87 49.00 2604 2485 51511 11949 99.2 1.041 ! Near Maximum !
Data for burning rate decreased by 5% relative to nominal value:
-Ba 87 49.00 2462 2220 42995 11742 94.8 1.132
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Note: That 53.0g is likely an estimate for a strong bolt action. I've never loaded for a 7600 but it is probably wise to keep the pressures lower.
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Azar, I have QL but have never used the function you showed. Where do I find it on the software?
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it's on the toolbar on top of the main QL page, a little more than half way from the left.
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it's on the toolbar on top of the main QL page, a little more than half way from the left. ????? Yours must be different from mine, toad. That's one of the QuickLOAD functions that I use most, and it's seventh from the right on my QuickLOAD tool bar � far past half-way along from the left. IMHO, it's one of the most useful of all the QuickLOAD functions. It tells which powder[s] will give you the best muzzle velocities at or below the maximum peak pressure and the range of case fill (%) that you've specified. Look close, fremont � the icon is a white rectangle with the numbers 1, 2, and 3 down the left side of a stack of three "bullets" ( 1 ���, 2 ���, 3 ���).On the preliminary screen, I set the maximum desired pressure at 50,000 lb/sq in. and the case fill at 100%. I don't like to compress the powder or to leave too much air space, so I set the case fill to a minimum of 90% and a maximum of 100%. Then I select the "both of the above" option. The read-out that I get is a bit misleading � it warns that some loads are hot, when they're only pushing the maximum-pressure limit that you've set (not necessarily that they're dangerously high for your rifle). If, for example, you set your maximum desired peak pressure at, say, 20,000 lb/sq in., QuickLOAD will warn you that every load that reaches or pushes 20,000 lb/sq in. is "dangerously high," even though the SAAMI limit for that cartridge may well be 60,000 lb/sq in. or even higher.
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Ken, you are correct. i was going from memory because i had QL closed right then.
i should know better by now...
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� i was going from memory � i should know better by now... , memory! I sorta remember having one of those, years ago, but can't remember what I used it for. 
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Be sure to study this excellent review of QuickLOAD � over and over and over �http://www.6mmbr.com/Quickload.htmlThere's a lot more in that program than you'll find (or even suspect) just by looking at it and using it on your own. You won't believe how fast careless or hasty use of it can get you into trouble � � trouble that (like debt and snowbanks) is easier to get into than out of!
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Actually, the function I showed would be the eighth from the right on the button bar. It wasn't the list of powder rankings which I posted but the graph showing velocity and pressure at specific increments of a particular powder.
I do love the feature that Ken is talking about though and what's nice is that you can re-order the list by criteria other than muzzle velocity (such as case fill, percentage of propellant burned, etc). The second most useful for me, has been the graph I posted that tells you the estimated pressure & velocity at specific charges.
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Would it be possible for you to determine the most efficient powder for me to use given the specs in my first post? If it is too much hassle I understand. I am fascinated by this QL software!
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Well, what is your criteria for "most efficient powder"? Percentage of propellant burned? Most velocity per grain of powder? Highest velocity overall...?
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I am not getting get great velocity out of my 18.5 inch barrel so I guess overall velocity would be most important to me.
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It predicts that Reloder-17 will give you top velocity, but only about 37 fps greater than what can be achieved with IMR 4895 in that application. Of course, this is only a computer estimation. Your real-world results may vary.
Cartridge : .30-06 Spring. (SAAMI)
Bullet : .308, 165, Hornady BTSP 3045
Useable Case Capaci: 61.523 grain H2O = 3.995 cm�
Cartridge O.A.L. L6: 3.280 inch = 83.31 mm
Barrel Length : 18.5 inch = 469.9 mm
Predicted Data for Indicated Charges of the Following Powders.
Matching Maximum Pressure: 57500 psi, or 396 MPa
or a maximum loading ratio or filling of 105 %
These calculations refer to your specified settings in QuickLOAD 'Cartridge Dimensions' window.
C A U T I O N : any load listed can result in a powder charge that falls below minimum suggested
loads or exceeds maximum suggested loads as presented in current handloading manuals. Understand
that all of the listed powders can be unsuitable for the given combination of cartridge, bullet
and gun. Actual load order can vary, depending upon lot-to-lot powder and component variations.
USE ONLY FOR COMPARISON !
55 loads produced a Loading Ratio below user-defined minimum of 85%. These powders have been skipped.
Powder type Filling/Loading Ratio Charge Charge Vel. Prop.Burnt P max P muzz B_Time
% Grains Gramm fps % psi psi ms
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Alliant Reloder-17 95.3 56.7 3.67 2747 99.0 57500 13051 0.962 ! Near Maximum !
Ramshot Hunter 103.7 60.8 3.94 2743 96.5 57500 13464 0.972 ! Near Maximum !
Hodgdon H414 97.9 58.7 3.81 2735 95.6 57500 13395 0.975 ! Near Maximum !
Winchester 760 97.9 58.7 3.81 2735 95.6 57500 13395 0.975 ! Near Maximum !
Vihtavuori N550 100.2 58.1 3.76 2731 98.0 57500 13254 0.984 ! Near Maximum !
Ramshot BigGame 96.2 56.3 3.65 2722 99.1 57500 12791 0.978 ! Near Maximum !
IMR 4895 92.7 52.6 3.41 2710 99.2 57500 12657 0.987 ! Near Maximum !
Alliant Reloder-15 93.5 53.0 3.44 2700 98.8 57500 12565 0.987 ! Near Maximum !
Winchester 748 86.0 52.5 3.40 2699 100.0 57500 12040 0.982 ! Near Maximum !
Hodgdon BL-C2 88.5 54.7 3.55 2699 99.7 57500 12394 0.990 ! Near Maximum !
IMR 4320 95.4 53.2 3.45 2690 99.1 57500 12145 0.971 ! Near Maximum !
IMR 3031 93.0 49.3 3.20 2689 100.0 57500 11424 0.988 ! Near Maximum !
Hodgdon H4895 90.1 51.1 3.31 2688 99.5 57500 12234 0.987 ! Near Maximum !
Hodgdon H380 94.9 55.0 3.56 2688 97.8 57500 12576 0.990 ! Near Maximum !
Accurate 2520 90.5 52.9 3.43 2676 100.0 57500 11723 1.001 ! Near Maximum !
Hodgdon H4350 104.9 58.2 3.77 2675 94.7 57500 12495 0.976 ! Near Maximum !
IMR 4350 103.0 58.1 3.76 2675 94.9 57500 12484 0.976 ! Near Maximum !
Accurate 4064 99.7 52.8 3.42 2674 100.0 57500 11712 1.019 ! Near Maximum !
Ramshot TAC 85.3 51.8 3.36 2672 99.8 57500 11865 0.984 ! Near Maximum !
Hodgdon VARGET 96.0 52.7 3.41 2667 98.7 57500 12023 0.977 ! Near Maximum !
Vihtavuori N530 87.0 49.6 3.21 2667 99.8 57500 11748 0.983 ! Near Maximum !
Accurate 4350 105.0 57.0 3.69 2662 97.4 52910 12965 1.033 ! Near Maximum !
IMR 4064 96.6 51.8 3.35 2662 98.9 57500 11871 0.981 ! Near Maximum !
Accurate 2495 92.7 49.7 3.22 2656 100.0 57500 11243 1.024 ! Near Maximum !
Vihtavuori N540 93.1 53.4 3.46 2656 100.0 57500 11487 0.990 ! Near Maximum !
Vihtavuori N150 102.8 55.0 3.56 2654 99.9 57500 11568 0.990 ! Near Maximum !
IMR 4007 SSC 96.4 55.4 3.59 2654 94.9 57500 12290 0.988 ! Near Maximum !
Hodgdon H322 86.8 47.8 3.10 2653 100.0 57500 11030 0.982 ! Near Maximum !
Alliant Reloder-19 105.0 59.6 3.86 2638 91.7 51984 12979 1.015 ! Near Maximum !
Winchester Supreme 780 105.0 62.8 4.07 2637 92.2 54605 12500 0.994 ! Near Maximum !
Vihtavuori N140 92.9 51.7 3.35 2635 100.0 57500 10930 0.989 ! Near Maximum !
Vihtavuori N135 99.0 50.9 3.30 2635 100.0 57500 10706 0.997 ! Near Maximum !
IMR 4831 105.0 57.0 3.70 2628 97.2 51609 12583 1.037 ! Near Maximum !
Alliant Reloder-12 86.7 50.1 3.25 2625 100.0 57500 10741 0.986 ! Near Maximum !
Hodgdon Benchmark 88.0 49.2 3.19 2624 99.9 57500 11069 0.983 ! Near Maximum !
Accurate 2700 97.4 57.0 3.69 2611 94.6 57500 11591 0.990 ! Near Maximum !
Accurate 2015 85.8 47.1 3.05 2601 100.0 57500 10291 1.004 ! Near Maximum !
IMR 7828 SSC 105.0 61.2 3.96 2596 87.6 49014 13111 1.036
Hodgdon Hybrid 100V 105.0 55.7 3.61 2590 98.4 49380 11980 1.044
Vihtavuori N133 92.5 48.0 3.11 2584 100.0 57500 9978 0.988 ! Near Maximum !
Vihtavuori N130 87.1 46.2 2.99 2569 100.0 57500 9819 0.994 ! Near Maximum !
Hodgdon H4831 SC 105.0 60.2 3.90 2569 87.8 50340 12285 1.029
Vihtavuori N560 105.0 60.8 3.94 2563 86.1 45994 13219 1.073
Alliant Reloder-22 105.0 60.2 3.90 2550 89.0 45305 13024 1.083
Accurate MAGPRO 105.0 63.3 4.10 2525 83.2 44664 12974 1.092
Winchester WXR 105.0 58.9 3.82 2468 87.0 41506 12523 1.130
Hodgdon H4831 105.0 57.9 3.75 2450 85.1 44005 11614 1.097
Ramshot Magnum (Big Boy) 105.0 63.8 4.13 2439 83.4 41552 12460 1.124
Vihtavuori N160 105.0 57.1 3.70 2432 86.9 44344 11173 1.100
Vihtavuori N165 105.0 58.9 3.82 2431 89.0 42714 11436 1.119
IMR 7828 105.0 57.9 3.75 2421 83.2 40551 12035 1.137
Alliant Reloder-25 105.0 59.2 3.84 2395 89.0 37582 12422 1.181
Accurate 3100 105.0 56.3 3.65 2317 89.1 36230 11215 1.236
Hodgdon H1000 105.0 58.9 3.82 2243 77.8 34910 10681 1.219
Vihtavuori N570 105.0 62.8 4.07 2222 69.0 32619 11291 1.265
Hodgdon Retumbo 105.0 59.9 3.88 2157 76.8 30197 10799 1.298
Vihtavuori N170 105.0 58.9 3.82 2124 70.3 30811 9684 1.302
Vihtavuori 24N41 105.0 63.4 4.11 2108 61.8 32157 9370 1.279
Hodgdon H870 105.0 61.5 3.98 2019 64.6 26294 9685 1.396
Hodgdon 50BMG 105.0 60.5 3.92 1949 54.0 26276 8332 1.398
Hodgdon US 869 105.0 63.4 4.11 1937 56.6 25938 8336 1.410
Vihtavuori N32C Tin Star 94.4 26.7 1.73 1929 100.0 57500 4500 1.065 ! Near Maximum !
Alliant Reloder-50 105.0 64.4 4.17 1927 58.5 23374 9301 1.464
Vihtavuori 20N29 105.0 64.1 4.15 1809 52.9 21993 7648 1.512
Accurate 8700 105.0 61.0 3.95 1803 54.2 21998 7333 1.515
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Thank you sir! I appreciate it.
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Another interesting note, 58 grain imr 4350 runs about 2650 fps in this rifle. Very close to what Quickload predicts.
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Soon after I got my first version of QuickLOAD, a friend asked me to see what it said about his favorite loads in two cartridges (which he'd shot a lot and had chronographed). He was especially interested in seeing what QuickLOAD would say that their pressures were. The loads shot well, but he was worried that maybe their pressures were excessive.
QuickLOAD got the muzzle velocity for one load eerily close, and the other one right smack on.
And their pressures were mild.
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It seems like a great program, Ken. I hope to get it one of these days.
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