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looking for information on an old Simmon's scope that I acquired recently. I have heard they were high quality and not produced for very many years. It is a 4x44, appears to be a quality product, better than any Simmons I have seen before. has an a/o with sunshade and yellow and gray glass filters. Supposedly sold in the $400 range new.
anyone have any info/experience with these?
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simmons and quality dont equal quality
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simmons and quality dont equal quality thanks, but that wasn't my question....
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T,
Back in the 1980s/1990s when those scope were made, most Simmons scopes were made in Japan. Most likely by Hakko or Light Optical works- the same places that built the Japanese Tascos and Bushnells of the era.
I have owned a few of them over the years. While folks make a big deal about them being "old" quality Japanese optics, I never saw them as being top tier stuff-. Good, but not on the level of a B&L Elite, Leupold etc..The lenses were plenty bright, but optical carity and shaprness was lacking on the ones I had.
The $400 price figure is pretty suspect. I cannot recall ever seeing a Simmons scope- no matter what the vinatge or model -ever priced over $200 brand new in those days.I cannot see a used one being worth more than $150.
To all gunmaker critics- "It is not the critic who counts; not the man who points out how the strong man stumbles, or where the doer of deeds could have done them better. The credit belongs to the man who is actually in the arena.."- Teddy Roosevelt
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The trouble....Simmons is associated with budget optics. Lots of people don't know that Simmons has marketed some very good stuff. That 4x probably didn't sell for anywhere near $400 back then, but the Presidential series was a very good scope. Internals were excellent, better than most any imported scopes. My 6.5-20 Presidential has been on the same rifle since the early 90's......during that time about 10 Leupolds have been gotten rid of.
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Not trying to dig up an old thread but I just acquired a rifle that has a 6.5-20 Presidential. If anyone has had this scope, does yours get cloudy at the magnification gets up around 17-20x? Seems to be pretty bright in comparison with my Nikon Monarchs.
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