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i have been looking a pools of hunters that killed moose showing how many moose taken with what caliber and how long did it take the moose to die and how far it go.
one this i dident understand is that the 300 win mag had the shartest distance after the shot with 24m but it had the higher shot taken with 1.9 even the 308 win had 1.4 shots and 270 had 1.6. one thing i never got was that withe the higher velocity dose more damage to the vital organs causing quicker kills. so is a 300 win mag better then the 338 win mag for moose? and if u can can u show me pics of moose shot buy the 300 and 338 or any caliber to compare damage from animal to animal and ur opinion on speed vs slow and heavy.

luiss
WHERE the damage is is more important than HOW MUCH damage was done. Hoof and hair shots might kill by infection weeks later, but an Aorta cut in two leaves the critter about 7 heart beats.

Also, higher velocity may not create more damage than lower. It is all about bullet construction, and again, where the damage is done. Especially with moose the bullet needs to dig deep to find vitals.

The smaller cartridges often scare folks less so they shoot them better. A 243 in the right place is better than a 338 in the wrong place.

1) Shot placement
2) bullet construction
3) cartridge

That is how I would rank the factors involved in killing quickly.
art

Check out the Scandinavian "moose" shooting studies -- they've been doing it a long time. They've received slightly better results over the past 50 years or so with 6.5x55 rounds -- like Art, I suspect from good shooting more than "good" bullets.

This whole concept is very simple -- a good bullet at a decent velocity fired accurately at a reasonable distance will work better than a heavy fast bullet fired poorly, particularly one at long range, every single time. It's just that simple.

Dennis

Listen to what these guys have said and don't overthink the caliber to much . You can analize it to the cows come home. The bottom line is you have to put the bullet in the right place . Sitka deer's wife has killed brown bear with a 7mm-08 because she put it where it neeeded to go at a reasonable distance. A 308 will kill anything in North America at appropriate ranges if you do your part. Focus more on the hunt and knowing when to take the shot not the cartridge.

Well, she hunted brown bear with her 7-08, but the only bear she killed was a black bear... Aside from that I agree fully.

I have killed moose with 6.5 X 55 Swede, 7mm-08, 30-30 WCF, 30-06, 340 Weatherby, 45-70, 375, 358 Winchester, and seen many shot with the 300 Win Mag and also some with 223, 6mm, and 308. They simply die when shot lethally. A light caliber works best if you've got the best bullets possible, ie: penetrators over expanders. Heavier calibers; any adequate bullet will work. Moose fall down when major somethings supporting them get broken or decommissioned. Otherwise they are pretty good at soaking up energetic impacts regardless the caliber or bullet. They eventually get weak; then they fall down. A 300 Win mag is a great caliber, so is a 338. A 30-06 is excellent as well. Smaller cartridges may have penetration problems if the distances get longer even with excellent bullets. Don't discount the massive nature of the northern North American moose. But don't waste a lot of time fretting over what will work or won't. If you've got a 30-06 or similar, load it with 180, 200, or 220 Partitions, or 165-180 GMX or TSX and you're good to go, even if they'll only shoot 2 MOA in your rifle. Don't worry about the killing. Think instead about the cutting and transporting. That's the part that can get worrisome.

The .338 is about the same speed as the .300 with the .180 and .200 grain bullets. I would say the .338 would be better than a .300 but the .300 is plenty for Moose.

Don't make this harder than it is. You don't NEED a "magnum" cartridge to hunt moose. A cup and core in the right place is better than a premium in the wrong place. But a premium bullet in the right place is even better.

Furthermore, a moose needs a little time to understand he is dead.

This generally is true, but I carefully dip my hunting bullets in a fast-spreading flesh-eating bacteria. It usually will drop the animal within minutes even with a hoof/hair shot.

Good luck eating that!

Nothing wrong with the 300WM or the 338WM but as what was already stated, you don't need a magnum to kill moose. I've shot moose with the 300WM, 375 H&H, and my favorite M70 in 270. All of them were killed using Nosler Partitions and not ever went more than 20 yards and most were DRT. Shoot whatever you feel most comfortable with and put the bullet where it counts and you'll have a dead moose.

Placement, Bullet, Cartridge is the mantra to follow. Worrying about or even considering tenths of shots:

is meaningless.

Lies, damn lies and statistics.

The OP is a piece of, um, work.

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One saying that I live by when shooting KS whitetails is "shoot 'em high and watch 'em die". Spine/neck shots will drop any deer type game in its tracks. A .250 Sav will kill deer, elk, caribou, and moose like Thor's hammer if shot high. If you shoot over, no tracking.