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#4534714 - 10/25/10 Re: Burris scout scope [Re: Steelhead]  
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Originally Posted by Steelhead
Granted Texas hunting is as tough as it gets, but scout scopes are still, and will always be, a compromise.

The line that if Burris were junk they'd be out of business don't wash well either. Course they likely work the vast amounts of folks sitting on their ass in a box blind hunting 3 days a year. Just cuzz more folks voted for Obama than didn't don't make it a smart.


Of course a Scout scope is a compromise, what scope ISN'T a compromise? The original question asked the opinion of the Burris Scout scope. Not YOUR opinion of Scout scopes in general.

After my last post, it occurred to me that both mine and my fathers elk rifles ALL mount Burris scopes and over the last several years these rigs have been many, many miles in saddle scabbards and carried up and down the mountains of New Mexico and never once lost a zero. Oh wait...I sit on my ass in a box blind don't I..... But owing to your 43000+ posts, I'd have to say you spend most of YOUR time sitting on YOUR ass in front of a computer. sick
How many Burris scopes have you owned?
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#4534719 - 10/25/10 Re: Burris scout scope [Re: 35WhelenNut]  
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Originally Posted by 35WhelenNut
Originally Posted by CUTNHARE
looking for some feedback on these scopes , who else makes a scout scope besides leupold ?


Holy CRAP!! The post has gone astray! Funny how everyone who ever "...looked through a Burris Scout Scope.." becomes an instant expert. Or someone like "Big Stick" (which by the way rhymes with Little...ahem...Richard) proclaims ALL Burris scopes are junk, then proceeds to show us pictures of his collections of multi-colored, plastic stocked rifles (with skulls and crossbones!! Yikes!! Soooo scary!!) all sporting (who would've ever guessed)scopes with massive objectives. "Why, you can't hit ANYTHING with a rifle wearing a Burris scope much less a 2.75X!!!" grin
First and foremost, if Burris scopes truly are junk, then Burris would no longer be in business. I own several of their scopes, as well as a Leupold or two, and under in real world hunting conditions, I find not enough difference in them, to spit at. Yes, compared side-by-side, the Leupolds of identical magnification seem a tad brighter, but again, in the field, it's made no difference to me.
Next, whoever said the original poster would be better off with a peep sight is a blithering idiot. And that's coming from someone who's obsessed with high quality peep sights (me). My primary High Power competition rifle sports a Redfield Palma and it truly is a fine, precision sight. My Marlin 375 and 1895, one of my Mauser hunting rifles, my Scout rifle, my wife's Scout rifle, one of my SKS's, my 1903, both 1903A3's (one with original sights, the other with a Lyman 48), my bolt .22 and both of my Mosin 91/30's ALL have receiver/peep sights. (Yes, it's possible to mount areceiver sight on a Mosin, but that's another post entirely.) My point is I LOVE peep sights, but in low light such as at dawn and dusk, a crappy scope is better than ANY peep sight for obvious reasons.
That being said, I HAVE owned a Burris Scout scope for nigh on 15 years. It's on my '98 Mauser .308 Scout rifle and it is utterly reliable. Year after year I check the zero on this rifle and so long as I don't change loads, I never, ever have to adjust the scope. 'Though I own a safe full of centerfire rifles, this rig is hands-down my favorite deer rifle. No, I don't take 400 yard shots with it, but more because to me that's unnecessary and borderline irresponsible for the average hunter. This rifle and scope was what I used to teach my daughter to deer hunt with beginning at age eleven. The main reason is that with the forward mounted scope it is so, so easy to acquire a target for those unaccustom to using a scope.
I'm currently putting together a Scout Rifle for my wife and I will without hesitation buy another Burris.
Nuff said in type. The proof is in the pudding:
[Linked Image][Linked Image] [Linked Image][Linked Image] [Linked Image] [Linked Image] [img]http://i60.photobucket.com/albums/h6/308Scout/Hunting/BuckScout.jpg[/img] [img]http://i60.photobucket.com/albums/h6/308Scout/Hunting/PB280045red.jpg[/img] [img]http://i60.photobucket.com/albums/h6/308Scout/Hunting/Emilysdeer02-5.jpg[/img]
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.........35 Whelennut,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,Ask Steelhead how soon he`ll remove that "piece of crap" scout scope from his carbine! (see his earlier pic). In fact better yet, ask him how long its been on there!!!

If I had a scope that I hated, I`d certainly trade it or sell it asap.


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#4534734 - 10/25/10 Re: Burris scout scope [Re: bigsqueeze]  
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Whelen...........Very good post with good pics.

The scout rifles do get the job done. Those real horrible Burris scout scopes keep right on selling now don`t they! But shame on us, for having those crappy and junky Burris scout scopes on our rifles.

And on my Ruger Frontier, I only use mine on a part time basis. They work just fine.



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#4534981 - 10/26/10 Re: Burris scout scope [Re: 35WhelenNut]  
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Originally Posted by 35WhelenNut
Originally Posted by Steelhead
Granted Texas hunting is as tough as it gets, but scout scopes are still, and will always be, a compromise.

The line that if Burris were junk they'd be out of business don't wash well either. Course they likely work the vast amounts of folks sitting on their ass in a box blind hunting 3 days a year. Just cuzz more folks voted for Obama than didn't don't make it a smart.


Of course a Scout scope is a compromise, what scope ISN'T a compromise? The original question asked the opinion of the Burris Scout scope. Not YOUR opinion of Scout scopes in general.

After my last post, it occurred to me that both mine and my fathers elk rifles ALL mount Burris scopes and over the last several years these rigs have been many, many miles in saddle scabbards and carried up and down the mountains of New Mexico and never once lost a zero. Oh wait...I sit on my ass in a box blind don't I..... But owing to your 43000+ posts, I'd have to say you spend most of YOUR time sitting on YOUR ass in front of a computer. sick
How many Burris scopes have you owned?
35W


Yep it's about post count. But your pics prove that apparently retards can procreate, compelling at best. I've owned damn near every brand of scope at one point or another. I know I've run 5-6 Burris scopes. I don't need to keep eating [bleep] sandwiches to know they taste like [bleep]

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#4534986 - 10/26/10 Re: Burris scout scope [Re: bigsqueeze]  
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Originally Posted by bigsqueeze
Originally Posted by 35WhelenNut
Originally Posted by CUTNHARE
looking for some feedback on these scopes , who else makes a scout scope besides leupold ?


Holy CRAP!! The post has gone astray! Funny how everyone who ever "...looked through a Burris Scout Scope.." becomes an instant expert. Or someone like "Big Stick" (which by the way rhymes with Little...ahem...Richard) proclaims ALL Burris scopes are junk, then proceeds to show us pictures of his collections of multi-colored, plastic stocked rifles (with skulls and crossbones!! Yikes!! Soooo scary!!) all sporting (who would've ever guessed)scopes with massive objectives. "Why, you can't hit ANYTHING with a rifle wearing a Burris scope much less a 2.75X!!!" grin
First and foremost, if Burris scopes truly are junk, then Burris would no longer be in business. I own several of their scopes, as well as a Leupold or two, and under in real world hunting conditions, I find not enough difference in them, to spit at. Yes, compared side-by-side, the Leupolds of identical magnification seem a tad brighter, but again, in the field, it's made no difference to me.
Next, whoever said the original poster would be better off with a peep sight is a blithering idiot. And that's coming from someone who's obsessed with high quality peep sights (me). My primary High Power competition rifle sports a Redfield Palma and it truly is a fine, precision sight. My Marlin 375 and 1895, one of my Mauser hunting rifles, my Scout rifle, my wife's Scout rifle, one of my SKS's, my 1903, both 1903A3's (one with original sights, the other with a Lyman 48), my bolt .22 and both of my Mosin 91/30's ALL have receiver/peep sights. (Yes, it's possible to mount areceiver sight on a Mosin, but that's another post entirely.) My point is I LOVE peep sights, but in low light such as at dawn and dusk, a crappy scope is better than ANY peep sight for obvious reasons.
That being said, I HAVE owned a Burris Scout scope for nigh on 15 years. It's on my '98 Mauser .308 Scout rifle and it is utterly reliable. Year after year I check the zero on this rifle and so long as I don't change loads, I never, ever have to adjust the scope. 'Though I own a safe full of centerfire rifles, this rig is hands-down my favorite deer rifle. No, I don't take 400 yard shots with it, but more because to me that's unnecessary and borderline irresponsible for the average hunter. This rifle and scope was what I used to teach my daughter to deer hunt with beginning at age eleven. The main reason is that with the forward mounted scope it is so, so easy to acquire a target for those unaccustom to using a scope.
I'm currently putting together a Scout Rifle for my wife and I will without hesitation buy another Burris.
Nuff said in type. The proof is in the pudding:
[Linked Image][Linked Image] [Linked Image][Linked Image] [Linked Image] [Linked Image] [img]http://i60.photobucket.com/albums/h6/308Scout/Hunting/BuckScout.jpg[/img] [img]http://i60.photobucket.com/albums/h6/308Scout/Hunting/PB280045red.jpg[/img] [img]http://i60.photobucket.com/albums/h6/308Scout/Hunting/Emilysdeer02-5.jpg[/img]
35WN
.........35 Whelennut,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,Ask Steelhead how soon he`ll remove that "piece of crap" scout scope from his carbine! (see his earlier pic). In fact better yet, ask him how long its been on there!!!




If I had a scope that I hated, I`d certainly trade it or sell it asap.



Jesus H. Christ you are one DUMB SOB. I guarantee the scout scope ain't on the rifle. I guarantee there ain't a single scope in the house. I guarantee you are proof that even a stupid sperm can find an egg.


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#4535527 - 10/26/10 Re: Burris scout scope [Re: Steelhead]  
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Well I just had to make a post - most of my hunting rifles were made by my best friend Fred @ LowTech. He talked me into a Burris 2.75x a few years ago and it is by far my favorite hunting rifle. I also have some more traditional set ups with Redfield, Leupold, Zeiss, and Burris scopes. No doubt the other scopes are much better in low light and much better in magnification as well.

My scout rifle is built on a Turkish Mauser - still in 8x57, Boyd's stock, Timney trigger. I can usually group right at 1" with handloads, not too bad considering it's a 70 year old rifle with a 'good bore.'

[Linked Image]

[Linked Image]

I think what I like most about the scout rifle setup is that I seem to get a quicker sight picture. Your mileage may vary..

I saw some nice pix of a bunch of rifles in earlier threads (drool). Nice pix of the kid and her kills too (good looking kid you got there - nice kills too).








#4535604 - 10/26/10 Re: Burris scout scope [Re: Steelhead]  
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Originally Posted by Steelhead
Originally Posted by bigsqueeze
Originally Posted by 35WhelenNut
Originally Posted by CUTNHARE
looking for some feedback on these scopes , who else makes a scout scope besides leupold ?


Holy CRAP!! The post has gone astray! Funny how everyone who ever "...looked through a Burris Scout Scope.." becomes an instant expert. Or someone like "Big Stick" (which by the way rhymes with Little...ahem...Richard) proclaims ALL Burris scopes are junk, then proceeds to show us pictures of his collections of multi-colored, plastic stocked rifles (with skulls and crossbones!! Yikes!! Soooo scary!!) all sporting (who would've ever guessed)scopes with massive objectives. "Why, you can't hit ANYTHING with a rifle wearing a Burris scope much less a 2.75X!!!" grin
First and foremost, if Burris scopes truly are junk, then Burris would no longer be in business. I own several of their scopes, as well as a Leupold or two, and under in real world hunting conditions, I find not enough difference in them, to spit at. Yes, compared side-by-side, the Leupolds of identical magnification seem a tad brighter, but again, in the field, it's made no difference to me.
Next, whoever said the original poster would be better off with a peep sight is a blithering idiot. And that's coming from someone who's obsessed with high quality peep sights (me). My primary High Power competition rifle sports a Redfield Palma and it truly is a fine, precision sight. My Marlin 375 and 1895, one of my Mauser hunting rifles, my Scout rifle, my wife's Scout rifle, one of my SKS's, my 1903, both 1903A3's (one with original sights, the other with a Lyman 48), my bolt .22 and both of my Mosin 91/30's ALL have receiver/peep sights. (Yes, it's possible to mount areceiver sight on a Mosin, but that's another post entirely.) My point is I LOVE peep sights, but in low light such as at dawn and dusk, a crappy scope is better than ANY peep sight for obvious reasons.
That being said, I HAVE owned a Burris Scout scope for nigh on 15 years. It's on my '98 Mauser .308 Scout rifle and it is utterly reliable. Year after year I check the zero on this rifle and so long as I don't change loads, I never, ever have to adjust the scope. 'Though I own a safe full of centerfire rifles, this rig is hands-down my favorite deer rifle. No, I don't take 400 yard shots with it, but more because to me that's unnecessary and borderline irresponsible for the average hunter. This rifle and scope was what I used to teach my daughter to deer hunt with beginning at age eleven. The main reason is that with the forward mounted scope it is so, so easy to acquire a target for those unaccustom to using a scope.
I'm currently putting together a Scout Rifle for my wife and I will without hesitation buy another Burris.
Nuff said in type. The proof is in the pudding:
[Linked Image][Linked Image] [Linked Image][Linked Image] [Linked Image] [Linked Image] [img]http://i60.photobucket.com/albums/h6/308Scout/Hunting/BuckScout.jpg[/img] [img]http://i60.photobucket.com/albums/h6/308Scout/Hunting/PB280045red.jpg[/img] [img]http://i60.photobucket.com/albums/h6/308Scout/Hunting/Emilysdeer02-5.jpg[/img]
35WN
.........35 Whelennut,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,Ask Steelhead how soon he`ll remove that "piece of crap" scout scope from his carbine! (see his earlier pic). In fact better yet, ask him how long its been on there!!!




If I had a scope that I hated, I`d certainly trade it or sell it asap.



Jesus H. Christ you are one DUMB SOB. I guarantee the scout scope ain't on the rifle. I guarantee there ain't a single scope in the house. I guarantee you are proof that even a stupid sperm can find an egg.
...........................Nice of you Mr. Steelhead to contribute such fine language and oratory (AS ALWAYS) to these heated debates. I didn`t know that Jesus had a middle initial. And if I`m proof that stupid sperm can find an egg, then you certainly quantify that several million times over.

Well guys! You see this clown`s (Steelhead`s) last post above to me. Please refer back to page 3 of this thread and read this following quote by Steelhead, which was placed above his pic showing his carbine.

Quote,,,,"HERE`S ONE SUCKAGE SCOUT SCOPE IN USE.",,,,Unquote........ whistle whistle whistle laugh laugh laugh

Oh! You must have forgotten about that one. Sure looks like that scope is mounted forward enough on that carbine to be in a scout position as well as being an EER scope!!!!????? AFTERALL! YOU DID TYPE IN THE ABOVE QUOTE and you`re the one whom posted that pic!..... laugh laugh

LAFFIN........ laugh laugh laugh



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#4535612 - 10/26/10 Re: Burris scout scope [Re: bigsqueeze]  
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In my own experience (and yes, with the Burris Scout scope, as well the Leupold version), the acquisition is NO faster than the acquisition with any properly mounted scope with a decent eye box.

And, the diminution of FOV, brightness, and magnification is not worth the trade off.





#4535664 - 10/26/10 Re: Burris scout scope [Re: 35WhelenNut]  
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Originally Posted by 35WhelenNut
... Of course a Scout scope is a compromise, what scope ISN'T a compromise? ...


1. Leupold 3.5-10x40 w/ standard duplex & at least an elevation turret
2. Leupold fixed 6x w/ same as above

that's just a start ...


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#4535745 - 10/26/10 Re: Burris scout scope [Re: WGM]  
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True, all scopes are a compromise.

In my experience, the two that WGM listed are the least compromise across the board, whereas the scout scopes are a far greater compromise in several key categories (brightness, FOV, magnification), and thus, inferior.




Bravo

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Just cuz he has a rifle pic with a scout scope on it , doesnt mean its still on there numbbnutz... Jeezus, u are dense..

Not talkin about VA, either..

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Understood, completely.




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Originally Posted by Steelhead


Yep, they SUCK, and I know because I've used the [bleep] things.




Yep.




#4535789 - 10/26/10 Re: Burris scout scope [Re: Bristoe]  
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Originally Posted by Bristoe
The Burris was the answer to a question I asked.

[Linked Image]


Good Lord, what did the Martini Cadet do to deserve THAT?!?




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Originally Posted by WGM
Originally Posted by 35WhelenNut
... Of course a Scout scope is a compromise, what scope ISN'T a compromise? ...


1. Leupold 3.5-10x40 w/ standard duplex & at least an elevation turret
2. Leupold fixed 6x w/ same as above

that's just a start ...


Those scopes are a compromise.

The eye relief of the 3.5-10 shortens rather dramatically with power increase.

The fixed-6 is, well, a fixed-6.

Closest I've found to a no-compromise scope is the Conquest 3-9x40. And with it- ta da!- you have to compromise on weight and ocular size.

Well the Swaro 2.5-10x42 AV removes that; it's light and trim. But then you have to compromise your wallet! grin


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Originally Posted by 721_tomahawk
Just cuz he has a rifle pic with a scout scope on it , doesnt mean its still on there numbbnutz... Jeezus, u are dense..

Not talkin about VA, either..
..................Yep! You were referring to me.....I didn`t read any quote from Steelhead where he states he removed it,,,,,,,,,,NUMBNUTS.

Looks who`s the dense one!

BTW! There`s only one "b" in numb, and there`s no "z" in nuts. We`ll make an exception though,,,,,,,for the denser and less talented spellers who are amongst us.


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"Jesus H. Christ you are one DUMB SOB. I guarantee the scout scope ain't on the rifle. I guarantee there ain't a single scope in the house. I guarantee you are proof that even a stupid sperm can find an egg."
_________________________

OK, NUMBNUTZ, re-read that paragraph and then take the diick outa yer mouth...

I dont have to spell right to get the bulge on a tub like you...

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Originally Posted by VAnimrod
Originally Posted by Bristoe
The Burris was the answer to a question I asked.

[Linked Image]


Good Lord, what did the Martini Cadet do to deserve THAT?!?


This,..

[Linked Image]


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That is spectacular accuracy from that old Martini!


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She's human as you are -- you treat her as sich,
An' she'll fight for the young British soldier.
Fight, fight, fight for the soldier . . ."


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Originally Posted by 721_tomahawk
"Jesus H. Christ you are one DUMB SOB. I guarantee the scout scope ain't on the rifle. I guarantee there ain't a single scope in the house. I guarantee you are proof that even a stupid sperm can find an egg."
_________________________

OK, NUMBNUTZ, re-read that paragraph and then take the diick outa yer mouth...

I dont have to spell right to get the bulge on a tub like you...
........You can`t spell "diick" either? Only one "i"..........Oh! And you still left the "z" in nuts too!

Tub? Yep! I`m a tubby all-right. 6-7% body fat. And after nearly 40 years of instructing, I still teach a few "arts" here and there to law enforcement personnel amongst doing other things. Amazing how doing that keeps the tubby-ness off the bod.

Tub uh? Should I spell tub with two bees? You tell me!

Yes! I did read his quote. However, it`s my choice to take his guarantees with any grain of salt.


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