Home Forums Hunting & Shooting Ask The Gunwriters Remington 700's under fire! Linked to Multiple deaths......

No, I meant to question the thought process that equated accidentally pulling a trigger while unloading a weapon with a weapon firing spontaneously on its own when the safety was released.

Here's another question I have, just to be objective about this entire issue...

Belk is shown (on Remington's website) answering "no" when asked if he was able to get any of the rifles he inspected to "accidentally fire" ...

What I'm curious about is the chain of possession of these rifles prior to getting into Belk's hands. Did Remington get these "faulty" rifles, make any adjustments, and THEN let Belk inspect them? Were the rifles that Belk inspected fresh off the production line, or were they returned rifles? Were any/all the rifles Belk inspected adjusted by someone outside of the Remington factory? on and on and on ...

Again, I'm not taking a position on either side of this fence ... Just trying to figure out the what/who/how/why so that I can make my own informed opinion about it.

And I was equating the thought process that allows one to point a loaded firearm at someone and hoping it doesn't go off while unloading, to someone that is essentially clueless.

And when will you understand that it poses a danger even when one isn't pointing it at someone if it can and occasionally does go off unexpectedly?

None of the M700s owned by me, the dozens and dozens owned by friends, or the hundreds that I've encountered at assorted ranges over the past 35 years, have ever exhibited any of these anomalies.

Hence, I am somewhat skeptical.

Here's what I have encountered a few times: Firearms that people have futsed around with, that eventually caused them problems due to their ineptness, carelessness and their general aura of stupidity. (Include improperly-adjusted triggers and bad reloading karma in that mix).

Pointing any firearm at another person, especially one that happens to be loaded, is a bad practice and I do not endorse it.

Yes, mechanical things can and do fail for various reasons. All the more reason to rely on one's own common sense, rather than the nonexistant infallibility of mechanical objects.

I find it interesting that the ones who preach safety and muzzle control in one breath, say they are willing carry a firearm that may discharge unexpectedly in the next...

Don't have to look too far to see the irony in that.

I don't own any 700's, but if I did, I would be replacing the triggers in them just to be on the safe side.

That way, you can practice good muzzle control and not be worried about a malfunction causing an unexpected discharge.

That is what I would consider being responsible and safe.

YMMV

JM

Drove Chevy pickups back in the 70s and 80s, that NBC "proved" might explode from side impacts, due to how/where the fuel tanks were mounted. Makes me a reg'lar daredevil, I reckon?

I was just lucky, apparently, because A: No one ever broad-sided me; nor B: Did anyone ever afix a rocket engine/remote igniter to the tanks to set 'em on fire, if I did ever get broad-sided?

Been carrying M700s since the late 1970s. Had someone that knew how, adjust the trigger on the first one, to about 3lbs when I bought it. Still works fine all these years later. It's one of the "hairy" ones that'cha gotta disengage the safety to open the bolt. You know, like the ones everyone is all het-up about.

And like every other firearm I've owned over the past 45+ years, it is never pointed in an unsafe direction, even when I know it isn't loaded.

Got to thinking about this today and it occured to me that the only rifle I've ever monkeyed with that had problems with the bolt de-cocking, or similar problems, was a SS Browning A bolt lightweight Medallion that a friend bought new. He wound up sending it back for repairs. First or second year production on the A bolts.

PS: Also have a M700 that the previous owner had a Timney installed on. It is no better than the original trigger on my first M700, as far as reliability, pull weight, creep, etc. Must be safer, though?

There is a difference between a high speed impact causing an explosion and simply manipulating the safety on a rifle causing one...

Like I said earlier, who knows if there is a real problem??

But if you consider the fact that the gent who designed them says there is the potential for a problem, that's enough for me to swap triggers and eliminate that issue.

That's all I'm saying.

Best,

JM

This is ancient news being brought back up by the liberal media. It's amazing how uninformed gun owners are and what they will believe.

The post above about covers it. If THAT MORON likes them....

Yes, especially when the "dangers of high speed impacts" on Chevy trucks had to be manipulated by NBC's special affects wizards to produce their desired results. Perhaps you were not familiar with that one?

Now we have CNBC dredging up something that has been discussed and known about for many years, as if the problem appeared as a result of their "investigative journalism".

What do we know about Walker, the former Remington employee, that has exposed their negligence?

The most accurate and best selling production rifle in the world! I'm not the only one that likes them.

If they are the "most accurate" rifles in the world why don't they have an accuracy guarantee like several others do?.....................DJ

It's right on the barrel "Remington". If the others had built accurate rifles in the first place they wouldn't have to give you a piece of paper promising accuracy.

If I'm not mistaken, the CNBC report also stated that the 700 was the most popular hunting rifle ever made.

And that's why they are attacking it. This isn't about the Model 700. It's about hunting and guns.

Yeah, but you're the only one that keeps one in a rack over your bed to jerk off to each night.........

I think they should do a story warning the public about Ford Pinto's and exploding gas tanks.

If you've never slept with a rifle you're not a hunter nor a soldier.

Who said anything about sleepin'?????