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By the way Goose, go with your first instinct and just shoot the damn thing.
If it bothers you so greatly that its not a wizzum, please sell the damn thing to me before you go and screw up a perfectly good gun, or tell me where its for sale.
I'll shoot the thing just like it is (caliber wise) and not give a flying schit whether any ding dongs here think it should be a wsm.
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Do I sound a bit touchy tonight? Just wondering :-)....
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Stick, whatcha think about the wyatt box. Kevin's shop is just across town.
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You lose a poke in the belly and that concession is something only you can factor and that upon your needs/wants.
Two ain't for me................
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Roger that. I've been getting buy with the two in the belly of the ti. Hasn't been any issue on game yet but have been contemplating the dremmel tool boogy on the adl stock.
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On the 700,I'd be talking to Glen and seeking his wares.................
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By the way Goose, go with your first instinct and just shoot the damn thing.
If it bothers you so greatly that its not a wizzum, please sell the damn thing to me before you go and screw up a perfectly good gun, or tell me where its for sale.
I'll shoot the thing just like it is (caliber wise) and not give a flying schit whether any ding dongs here think it should be a wsm.
Bill I certainly don't think is should be a WSM, and the brass issue is not what is available now, but what the chances of it being available tomorrow. My first instinct is to shoot the damn thing, and that is exactly what I am going to do.
This is God's universe, and he has a plan. You might think that you have aa better plan, but you don't have a universe.
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Do I sound a bit touchy tonight? Just wondering :-).... Not touchy, just speaking your mind and making some sense.
This is God's universe, and he has a plan. You might think that you have aa better plan, but you don't have a universe.
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Goose,
as a died-in-the-wool 300SAUM shooter (used in all parts of the US and Africa, my gut says go as is...HOWEVER, the only fly in the ointment might be the throat length vs the mag box length, in other words you might have a lot of jump based on mag box length. Having shot ALOT of rounds thru the 300 in both factory and custom chamberings i have found that most don't tolerate alot of jump for best accuracy. I am currently using Varget,RP cases, 210 primers and 168 TTSXs ( the only TSX version I have been able to get to shoot accurately in MY gun.) My velocity runs right at 3100fps with outstanding accuracy. Just for reference I start at .005 off the lands and work back in .005 increments. Mine likes no more than .015 jump.
Hope this helps,
Bill Great info, Bill. Thank you! I'm not after your load data specifically, but what powder(s) would b be the best starting point? I was thinking H4350 or RL-19 and the 165gr Accubond. I know RL-19 works gret in th 300WSM.
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For me,the 165/8 is the '15/'19 threshold............
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Stay where you is...because you are there..........
He sure is. Latest fad I've been riding is a 155 Scenar at 3,300 fps. .508 BC bullet. Gives new definition to 30 caliber rifles. 22 on the M1 hits 1000.
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It's ALL about the boolit...headstamps mean dick,in comparison............
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True but the SAUM design does benefit longer bullets in a 2.8 action.
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Which was THE point outta the gate.
No case is worth a schitt,if ogives are riding below it's case mouth.
Twist,throating and mag constraints are the three pieces of info that rate a thunk...outta the gate,to keep frm pizzing up multiple ropes...........
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Put it in a McMillan ADL style stock and end up with a nice packable unit that has some "cool" factor. You're already at "cool"......buy a couple hundred pieces of brass, put it in a quality handle and commence to hunting.
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Get some dies, stock up on brass and you're good to go, you can always ream it to 300 WSM further down the road, but I'd at least wait til u burn out the current barrel, although, you're not gonna gain much by doing that, especially for the price of having it done.
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I tried them all..and on a fluke tested Varget..mine now punches itty-bitty holes with multiple shots...start at about 58 grs with R-P cases..with 168s...mine likes 59/60 grs..at 3100fps. 4350 worked ok..but the R powders just haven't panned out in my guns..ymmv...
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Wow guys, thanks for the input. The SAUM has a real following which is surprising since it's rarely mentioned any more.
It does have some cool factor to already doesn't it? I can't wait to shoot this thing now.
I have several powders on hand that should contain a load within one or more of them, R15, r19, Varget, H4350, I4350, I4831 and Hunter. I'm thinking of the 165 Accubond to start. Let the fun begin!
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If you reload there is no reason to rechamber. My 300 SAUM (an impulsive bargain purchase) has become my best shooter. Easy to load for, has shot all bullet weights very well. Load development consisted of using H4350 and not much reason to use anything else. I have never shot a factory round out of it and at $50 dollars a box, I would not choose the SAUM if I did not reload. I too bought a 7 SAUM after enjoying the 300 so much and it too is a great shooter.
Think of the SAUM as a fat 308 win. Tried and true case design.
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