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latest i just saw show Carly only 6,000 votes behind....

It's less than 4000 now

just saw that......looks like its far from a sure thing to me and Carly stands a chance.....

LOL you just can't fix stupid!

It will be interesting to see if the lame duck congress provides billions of dollars of "aid" to California (and other deficit ridden states).

That would make an excellent sigline.

Carly up by roughly 20,000

Between the series and this election, I'm about ready to take up drinking.

did you see the Fox map of CA? The only blue areas were the coast and Calexico. Amazing $hit that.

Look at a map of the country, it's red with a blue border, up and down both coasts, even in TX

There is so much political BS in this state tht I have no choice left but to convince my wife that we need to move out of this chicken schit state when she retires within the next 9 months.

We are seriously considering Southern Oregon. If I leave it up to her, I will be living in Brookings, Oregon this time next year?

Personally, I just want to move acroos the border about 40 miles from where we are at, that way we are close enough to visit the grand kids when we can.

Time will tell.

If you're making the effort to move, bypass Oregon---------it's circling the bowl too.

Oregon is infected also.

Dave,
Not only is Oregon circling the drain, they REALLY hate California transplants with a passion. Chit, they hate people from California just passing through.

Brian.

Brian,

that is where you are wrong..

I am a transplant here myself.. moving here from Minnesota..
( although I am a native of Virginia)

one of the first thing you notice immediately, is the disdain for Californians and California...

so I started asking people why they hate California and Californians so bad... their answer initially surprised me..

most of the time, the first words out of their mouths were " why do you think I left there in 198- whatever...

Most people you meet in Oregon who hate californians so much... are California transplants themselves...

As I use to joke to myself....my response to their's was :Oh! I should have guessed it... YOU were the last good one across the stateline.... every one after YOU from California is a butthead....

I admit, that it does get irritating with the attitude of SOME Californians when they get up here, and act like they are among the hicks.. and that we should be in awe of their intellectually superior presence...

but most of those types are from the Bay Area or L.A.

beyond that, I meet a lot of great folks from California..
and meet a lot of great folks when I go down into California on business..

and as far as Oregon, swirling down the drain... we can thank the residents of Potland, Salem and Eugene for that one...regardless of where they came from..

and sure there are a lot of nuts from California up there and in Washington... but it is NOT all the fault of California transplants... there are a lot of local Dumbazzes that contribute to the political idiocy that always carry the rest of the state.. as they outnumber the rest of us ever so slightly.. but enough to keep winning elections..

Lots of beauty on the left coast but there isn't a single state there I'd ever consider living in. By far the most [bleep] up individuals I've ever met have been from CA, OR and WA.

Lots of beauty, but if anyone believes San Francisco is the most goobed up population filled with freaks on the west coast, they haven't seen Seattle.....

living here I can verify the wisdom in that..

however, after going to college in Massachusetts... don't leave out Southern New England and Southern NY, and North Jersey getting credit, where credit is due...

the political maps of what counties nationally voted for Democrats is a pretty accurate map of where the real dumbazzes of the country reside also...

The north eastern seaboard is only 'bout two-clicks from the same elevation as the west coast. We quit accepting customers or providing service to California several years ago. The cost of moving equipment into, around, and back out of that state is stifling. Then because admixtures for concrete are (non-hazardous) chemicals, compliance with Ca law is outrageous - and not worth the risk. The cost of concrete to the consumer was usually a third (low side), to twice the cost in a less hostile environment.

Maryland, Massachusetts, Rhode Island, Delaware, and New York, are nearly as hostile. We got scalded bad this year in Maryland, and West Virginia with mandatory non-productive union requirements, and project delays on a couple of wind farms.

While they preach "green energy, save the planet", they don't mean they want to provide it - damn wind farms are ugly!

So, we may not service the eastern seaboard in the future.

What else is new? CA is as CA does..