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i work up loads at 100 yards and occasionally shoot groups at 100 to verify the scope is on, etc.

but yeah, adjustments needed at long range are more important- and maybe not even noticeable- at only 100 yards.

100 is more about "what bullet groups best with this powder, etc" and maybe about betting your buddy you can shoot a smaller group than him.

stick, that's an interesting point. chronos are way underrated. i need to buy my own.

For me 100yds is where you work on marksmanship and Long Range is where you learn to dope wind.

No excuses at 100yds, the bullet is under the crosshair or I screwed the shot.

Hits are what count and "groups" don't mean much. Hit the dot and don't measure groups.

John, only commies talk about wind blowing bullets around. Riflemen learning to dope wind??? Come On!

The ways guys practice around here is to stick up a paper plate on a pine tree and practice hitting it...caller her good enough. Gene pool is pretty thin in spots. Some can't afford the paper plate...just shoot at the knot in the tree.

General rule of thumb, throw enough money at the latest Mashemflatmagnum and you don't have to practice.

I talked to 2 guys the other day who ranged their hunting spots and found that the max shot distances were 65 and 70 yards. To verify zeros for this year's hunting, they put a soda can at 70 yds and shot until they were hitting it. Their rifles were chambered in 7mmRM and 300WM. Damn.....

Well I personally would not think about shooting a deer at 500 yards, if I didn't have a rifle that would print at least a 1 inch groups at 100yds. However, that sure as blueberries doesn't mean that rifle will hit a deer at 5, 6 or 700 yards, if you can not shoot well enough and know how to compensate for those things such as wind for starters. This is something you do not learn to do in just 3 or 4 weeks before a hunting season.

Now my Long Range rifles are in fact a wildcat called a .338/300-Ultra Mag model 70 Winchester (.338-Edge if you insist) and a real sweet 7mm Rem mag. model 70 Winchester also, which by the way will indeed shoot groups at 100yds from .425 to .650 depending on my eyes that day. The .338/300Ultra Mag will shoot 1/2 inch MOA or under for a bench session at 100yds, using 250 grain Sierra bullets via my handloading.

I'd be in no hurry to add COAL to the 338Ultra,as it shines outta the gate.

The 250 Scenar rates a thunk..................

You guys amaze me. I watch the Marine and Army snipers on the tube and they have a spotter to help them get on at 900 or 1000 yards. Often they have to make corrections to do so. How do you shoot that far and not wound a lot of animals? Not being critical, I just don't know how you can do that. It seems the target could move a half or full step before the bullet hits and that would mess up the whole deal. What am I missing here? Practice of course but how do you judge wind and drop needed without a sighting shot(s) at those ranges? I would think it would be long range SHOOTING more than long range HUNTING. I shoot the smaller calibers off adjustable rests and bags at 100 to 300 and I know a 3/4 inch 100 yard group will often open at three hundred to a larger group than .75 MOA. You guys that do that really do make me wonder about the amount of "midrange" elevation that has to be made.
Again, I AM NOT being critical... wondering minds want to know.

I shoot 100 yrds to conferm a new load, and or to conferm my zero. When the load is developing, I run it over the crony. When I have both the accurcy and velocity I`m looking for, I can now run balistic programs to get a drop table. I then shoot the load to conferm the table, usually out to 700 yrds for the 7 mag.

I look for a 1 inch or better 100 yrds. I normally shoot a 3 shot group. I have seen bullets and loads that have printed 1 inch at 100 and continue to print MOA out to 1k. I have seen bullets/loads print 3/8 inch at 100, and 3 inches at 300. You do not know how a combination is going to perform till you try it at various yardages. You want consistency..

As far as the question of a spotter, both are working together on a solution for the shot. He can also call the shot if a correction is needed for a second. My son and I work as a team when shooting/hunting at anything over 300 yrds. Two heads here are better than one, IMHO. And the consenses may be to NOT shoot.

The question should be "what sized groups are you comfortable shooting at 500 yards to feel comfortable shooting at an animal at 500 yards."

If you can't practice doing it, please don't try it on an animal.

DEW, I have my LONG RANGE SHOOTERS but really do NOT shoot long range much other than at targets nowdays. I can not see that well and I am no spring chicken anymore. However, my rifles (which I am very proud of indeed) certainly will shoot tiny little groups out to 700, 800 and 1000 yards hitting paper.

I love to shoot long range for practice and just to enjoy my rifle and existance doing so on this planet we all call earth. I am more in tune to shoot game at 250 yards these days, only because of my eyes. I suppose there might be a few animals wounded by some long range shooters, just like those guys in my state who wound them using 30-30's at less than a 100 yards.

To answer the poster's question, I would want my rifle to shoot sub 1/2" groups for 500 yard shooting. My 7 STW's are the only long range rigs that I have shot at 550 and they group in the 2 1/2"-3 1/2" are with 140g Nosler C/T bullets.

I have yet to shoot my 7 mag with the new found load of the 162g A Max at 3100 to see how it holds up...never assume anything on how a load will hold together till you try it.

I consider myself to be a "hack" when it comes to long range shooting. All I have are accurized sporters and I handload for all of them. Most of them, I have no idea what the 100 yard potential is. I create a load, run it across the chrono, run the numbers for a ballistics program then go to either the 300 or 600 yard mark and twist turrets. All of my "long range" rifles (all 3 of them) will wear a 7" gong out at 600 yards. So they, all 3, will hold at least a sub-7" group at 600 yards. Not very scientific. But like I said, I'm a hack.

I do have rifles in the safe that shoot 100 yard, 3-shot groups consistantly from 1/4" to 1/2". But I never tried any of them on paper or steel past 300 yards.

Some day when I don't have to work from dark in the morning until dark at night, I'll get around to figuring out all my guns.

Dead is dead.

MOST are in over their head's,at the 50yd line.............

Below are three consecutive 100 yard groups fired with my 300RUM.I was shooting my hunting load,and the gun wears a 3-10x42 scope.The 3-9 scope limits my 500 yard groups to around 3".




My 7mmstw isn't bad either.

Where'd the missing 1X go?

Though in fairness...it's tough to get giddy about a .507 BC in a 180 30cal,that digests 95grs of powder. But admittedly,gunning 80grs to "yield" a .434BC 140gr .284",do frost that cake nicely.

Laffin'................

When and where Lil Fish???

JPro

Hmmmm.....sounds like you may be from Louisiana! Folks 'round these parts still think a bullet 'rises' when it leaves the muzzle!! Most don't use pie plates, rather it's white 5 gal. buckets!!

Testing at 100 yds. is about as useless as 'teats on a boar hog'!!