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I like my big scopes, but I shoot all the time out to 650 yds (that's all the further my hillside goes before it jumps to 850 yds) all the time using 2.5-8, 3-9, and 3-10 scopes.
The 7WSM I'm lusting after would have a 3-9 or 3-10 scope on it.
And I won't be shooting any further (on game) than what I've practiced extensively and proven to myself that I can hit at. I'm pretty hard on myself in that regard.
Here goes the thread <grin>. Thanks for all the good info and enjoyed chatting with you Bob, Mark & Larry!
Remember, Hathcock and his platoon only needed ten power.
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That'd be my experience too. But again, for what I'm talking about here, a heavy 7mm isn't an option. If it was, I'd be exporing a 7 STW or 7 RUM or talking to you and JC about big .33's. So Jeff, what is wrong with packing that STW in the woods. This one totes as easy as any of my magnum bolt rifles. It shoots a 162 at 3200 fps without breaking a sweat. And recoil is not too punishing since I added the decelorator pad. ![[Linked Image]](http://i3.photobucket.com/albums/y83/Idaho_Shooter/Copyof41Ruger003.jpg) Wow. Pardon my ignorance, but that's a #1, right? And so you get like a 28" barrel in a rifle that's not too long... right? Cool! How's it shoot?
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#1-B comes with a 26 inch barrel. But to get her in 7 STW you will have to look at the used market. Ruger only made it for a year or two.
Some #1's shoot right out of the box, some don't. This one took a little tuning to make 1/2 moa with Sierra 160 SPBT or Hornady 162 btsp.
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That'd be my experience too. But again, for what I'm talking about here, a heavy 7mm isn't an option. If it was, I'd be exporing a 7 STW or 7 RUM or talking to you and JC about big .33's. So Jeff, what is wrong with packing that STW in the woods. This one totes as easy as any of my magnum bolt rifles. It shoots a 162 at 3200 fps without breaking a sweat. And recoil is not too punishing since I added the decelorator pad. That puppy is too darn heavy for me to tote where I go, bet it's 10 lbs or so the way it sits. Dober
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"True respect starts with the way you treat others, and it is earned over a lifetime of demonstrating kindness, honor and dignity"....Tony Dungy
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Just because I was mean, don't mean you weren't a dumbass... nor that I don't lust after that rifle. Point taken..... 
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Dober, 2'nd on the Happy B'day.
The #1 is sitting on the scale right here, she runs 10 lb 8 oz including the ammo and a very heavy antique Burris 4-12 Fullfield II.
My Winchester model 70 classic in 264 Win weighs 11 lb 10 oz with the same amount of ammo and a Leupie 4-12 VX II. It also wears a wood laminate stock.
Wea MK V in 340 with 4-12 Leupie and factory wood weighs 11 lb 12 oz with same ammo and bipod.
The ammo weighs nearly a pound, it could be carried in a pocket or on the belt and of course several ounces could be saved if one left the bipod at home.
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Dober: Happy Birthday!You are almost catching up to me!
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Mark
Happy Birthday! (Bridger Bowl just called and asked you not to light the candles on your cake- They don't want to melt their snow base... :))
(Like, I should talk, huh?)
Happy birthday!
Fred
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If you added the .338.340 to this, we could have called it the Bob Hagel thread.
Oh how we learn, that the past had class.
JW JM I was thumbing through "Game Loads and Practical Ballistics" by Hagel the other night,my dog-eared torn up old copy  ...what a great book and great read that is.....I got to speak with him once many years ago;a great guy and a class act.Always enjoyed Hagel's stuff! Bob, it's funny how you metion this book as I just bought a copy last night! Can't wait to get it and dig in... Chris
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Happy Birthday again Dober! Enjoy the day.
Chris
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Chris: It's a bit dated,but nonetheless very applicable.Not much bad advise in that book. You will enjoy it!
The 280 Remington is overbore.
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If you added the .338.340 to this, we could have called it the Bob Hagel thread.
Oh how we learn, that the past had class.
JW JM I was thumbing through "Game Loads and Practical Ballistics" by Hagel the other night,my dog-eared torn up old copy ...what a great book and great read that is.....I got to speak with him once many years ago;a great guy and a class act.Always enjoyed Hagel's stuff! Bob, it's funny how you metion this book as I just bought a copy last night! Can't wait to get it and dig in... Chris Now about that book, IMO it's my all time fav hunting and gun gack book! I'm on my 2nd copy (the one that Bob H signed for me, I'm a bit careful with this one..grin) Dober
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Howdy folks! Learned how to use part of my software I didn't even realize I had... thanks, Jordan! Here's a couple interesting charts. The first is the load I'm running in my '06, compared to what a 7 WSM "should" do with a 162-AMAX. This is a wind drift chart. ![[Linked Image]](http://i142.photobucket.com/albums/r111/handwired/d3ccccb7.jpg) Interestingly, here's how a '06 could hypothetically fare IF a guy got an accurate 2700 fps load with the 208-AMAX. The 2700 fps is doable, the accuracy is the big "if" here... ![[Linked Image]](http://i142.photobucket.com/albums/r111/handwired/5dadbd65.jpg) Kind of interesting to look at, I thought, so there she be.
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For giggles and chits, this is how a 300WM compares... ![[Linked Image]](http://i142.photobucket.com/albums/r111/handwired/699b6ec1.jpg)
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The top two charts show why I have some hope that if I choose to go down this road and do a sporter 7WSM, it would help (as much as hardware can) tame wind-induced squirreliness to the extent that's possible.
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I just retired my 7 WBY for a new 30-06 Tikka T3. My 7 WBY will run with a STW any day but in the end a 168 gr TTSX launched at 2900 fps from my 30-06 Tikka will deliver the same damage at 700 yds. So why bother with a fussy 7 mag when an easy shooting 30-06 kills just as well? I am one for the '06.
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The top two charts show why I have some hope that if I choose to go down this road and do a sporter 7WSM, it would help (as much as hardware can) tame wind-induced squirreliness to the extent that's possible. Shooting with Joe Cool and learning h0ow to deal with the wind would benefit you far more. The calibers that you already have are very capable of consistent hits at 700 yards and beyond
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