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Originally Posted by derby_dude
This suit has no merit according to our illustrious esquires Bob and Steve. Both have said that what the original intent of Constitution was or what the Founding Fathers intended has no merit on cases of constitutional law. Obama is an American citizen because Obama says so.



No, you poor confused man. We've just said that what you think they intended has no merit. And your last sentence is nonsensical, even for you.

the original post is typical WND drama, with a kernel of truth. like all the other birther suits, this one has already been dismissed. the plaintiffs filed a petition for cert, which may or may not have even been considered yesterday. The Court is off until Monday. I suspect they will do the same thing they have with the other birther suits and not grant cert.


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Be careful what you wish for ...... if Obama goes and Biden resigns ......... need I even say it????????? I can't bring myself to even type the words!!!


Yeah, we get Boehner.

It's not like it could happen before Christmas.


Course, Biden would NEVER resign.


As long as it won't happen before January, then I am relieved and my post can be disregarded.


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Well, as I've said, I'm no attorney and I look to those who are attorneys for perspective.

It is true that Kerchner was up for discussion at the regular conference session yesterday. The question is whether or not to grant certiorari, i.e., decide whether SCOTUS will take the case.

At this point the odds are very heavy against the case being accepted. Something like 1-2% of requests for certiorari are granted. The case pretty much has to be either something SCOTUS is eager to get its hands on, or something it can't avoid taking. SCOTUS would much rather have issues such as the definition of "natural born" settled by political processes.

So I'm not full of expectations. If we do get cert, I'll celebrate with the rest, but I'm not expecting that it will be granted.

There is reason to think that Obama may not serve his full first term anyway. His first two years have been a miserable experience for him. Just look carefully at his body language. He is a defeated man. As hard as the first two years were, the next two are going to be worse since his party no longer controls the House. In 2012, there are 31 Senate seats up for election and 21 of those are held by Dems. A Repub takeover of the Senate in 2012 is very likely, and he knows it. At that point, being POTUS would be excruciatingly painful. Since his approval rating is below 40% and sinking, and since only 26% of us think he will be re-elected, what would be the point?

We will get over Obama. Whether we will get over the people who put him in power is another question altogether.


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It ain't gonna happen! The SC doesn't have BIG ENUFF BALLS to do it....even if the AH is found not to be a NBC as per the 'intent' of the Founders!!


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Originally Posted by denton
Well, as I've said, I'm no attorney and I look to those who are attorneys for perspective.

It is true that Kerchner was up for discussion at the regular conference session yesterday. The question is whether or not to grant certiorari, i.e., decide whether SCOTUS will take the case.

At this point the odds are very heavy against the case being accepted. Something like 1-2% of requests for certiorari are granted. The case pretty much has to be either something SCOTUS is eager to get its hands on, or something it can't avoid taking. SCOTUS would much rather have issues such as the definition of "natural born" settled by political processes.

So I'm not full of expectations. If we do get cert, I'll celebrate with the rest, but I'm not expecting that it will be granted.

There is reason to think that Obama may not serve his full first term anyway. His first two years have been a miserable experience for him. Just look carefully at his body language. He is a defeated man. As hard as the first two years were, the next two are going to be worse since his party no longer controls the House. In 2012, there are 31 Senate seats up for election and 21 of those are held by Dems. A Repub takeover of the Senate in 2012 is very likely, and he knows it. At that point, being POTUS would be excruciatingly painful. Since his approval rating is below 40% and sinking, and since only 26% of us think he will be re-elected, what would be the point?

We will get over Obama. Whether we will get over the people who put him in power is another question altogether.


Pretty good opinion and I agree. I think Obama is going to go into severe depression as time goes on. A person with severe depression and as narcissistic as he is, are subject to sucide. I actually look for him to commit sucide if he keeps going. I know this is far out there but I think it's a real possibility.


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We can only hope that he does. Now that would be cause for a celebration!!!

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Originally Posted by derby_dude


Pretty good opinion and I agree. I think Obama is going to go into severe depression as time goes on. A person with severe depression and as narcissistic as he is, are subject to sucide. I actually look for him to commit sucide if he keeps going. I know this is far out there but I think it's a real possibility.


You know, I was wondering along these lines myself earlier today. That would be tragic, as he could not be impeached posthumously.

Of course, a presidential suicide would instantaneously spawn a whole new conspiracy-theory industry...
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Anyone who thinks that they know how the 2012 elections are going to turn out is either delusional or knows very little about history.

As for Obama and suicide, he would burn the world to the ground and see all of us dead before he would ever consider it.


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Look no further than the iron-clad case(s!) against Clinton. Then look to that (those) outcome(s). No use for hopes in this situation, fellas; he's here to stay for a while.


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Originally Posted by sbh va
Be careful what you wish for ...... if Obama goes and Biden resigns ......... need I even say it????????? I can't bring myself to even type the words!!!


Only if it happens before Jan and the the new house is seated, then Piglosi is out of the picture in the Presidential Succession Lottery.


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Originally Posted by slymule
We can only hope that he does. Now that would be cause for a celebration!!!


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Originally Posted by denton

We will get over Obama. Whether we will get over the people who put him in power is another question altogether.


There's the money quote right there. What, or who, are the 53% of morons who bought his BS and were soft headed enough to vote for him?


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If Obama is not eligible to be the president then he will refuse to run for reelection in 2012. I think a number of the states are requiring prove of eligibility before allowing a candidates name on the ballot.



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Originally Posted by Steve_NO
Originally Posted by derby_dude
This suit has no merit according to our illustrious esquires Bob and Steve. Both have said that what the original intent of Constitution was or what the Founding Fathers intended has no merit on cases of constitutional law. Obama is an American citizen because Obama says so.



No, you poor confused man. We've just said that what you think they intended has no merit. And your last sentence is nonsensical, even for you.

the original post is typical WND drama, with a kernel of truth. like all the other birther suits, this one has already been dismissed. the plaintiffs filed a petition for cert, which may or may not have even been considered yesterday. The Court is off until Monday. I suspect they will do the same thing they have with the other birther suits and not grant cert.


You nailed it Steve_NO.

Justices turn aside another challenge over Obama's citizenship

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Washington (CNN) -- The Supreme Court has again cast aside an appeal that raised doubts about President Barack Obama's U.S. citizenship, a grass-roots legal issue that has gained little legal or political footing, but continues to persist in the courts.

The justices without comment Monday rejected a challenge from Charles Kerchner Jr., a Pennsylvania man who sought a trial in federal court forcing the president to produce documents regarding his birth and citizenship.


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Originally Posted by ConradCA
If Obama is not eligible to be the president then he will refuse to run for reelection in 2012. I think a number of the states are requiring prove of eligibility before allowing a candidates name on the ballot.


After spending so much money and effort to keep his past hidden you can bet he'll not unveil himself then, either.

Be watching for clues. I believe Team D knows what's coming and is already working on a plan.... while wishing they'd have run Hitlery.



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