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Who makes the best Gen 3 in 4 or 6 power night vision rifle scope? I have been looking at the Mars 4 & 6 , the Night Optics D-760. I have also looked at the new WPT or White Phosphor Technology which might be better than the Green, not really sure but they or in the same price range. I would like some info from someone who has experience using one or both of these scopes.

I also posted this in the Optic Forum

These are the guys to talk to. http://www.tacticalnightvision.com/

Also swing by the night-vision forum on ARFCOM, there is a lot of useful information there.

http://www.ar15.com/forums/forum.html?b=6&f=18

I'm a member of the AR15 FORUM but can't remember if i'm member of TN Forum

Night vision vs thermal? I"d always thought thermal once I saw it.... but geez the $$$$

Thermal is it & the $$$$$$$$!
In 2005 my son sent me pretty graphic nite scope pics/vids from some Iraq nite firefights he was in using the thermal vision....love that thermal scope, makes all the others look like a Model T!
That said...I have looked through a Nite Optics D740 and would like to have that for nite coyote hunting/calling myself.

night coyote hunting is why i want a night vision scope

you could always go with a PVS14 mounted in front of a daytime scope. TNVS carries mounts that attach the PVS to the objective bell of the scope. I've used one with a Nikon 2.5-10 mildot and I could see the scope reticle against the NV image very well.

How was the night vision image of the PVS14?

I looked up some google links... did appear like it would work and decent vision... didn't mention how FAR you can get that way...

But its interesting enough that if I could find an affordable one.... Id' figure out how to moutn it in front of my scope too.

Try this link from Walmart.com for a leupold. kwg

http://www.walmart.com/ip/ATN-Corp-...ith-Leupold-Mark-4-3.5-10x40-mm/14603670

Here is a cheaper version. kwg

http://www.walmart.com/ip/ATN-Corp-...it-with-Leupold-VX-II-3-9x40-mm/14603664

I have a corn field next to my house. At 200 yards I could watch deer in it. At lower powers on the scope, the reticle is clear and easily seen. At higher powers (over 6 or thereabouts) the arrangement caused sort of a tunnel vision where you're looking through a tube. With an IR illuminator I could spot mice in the grass. Their eyes would glow like an LED. I've spotted that LED from 80 yards or more.

Talk to the guy at TNVS. He has used the PVS set up and had some pics of the images he posted on AR15.com. I tried pics, but my camera is crap and wouldn't focus through the scope right.

I'm saving for the 760D Gen 3 , 6 power.

It should be noted that a PVS-14 will NOT work in front of a day scope. It must be used behind it, as the pvs-14 is giving you an image of the target and will result in POI changes relative to POA. One needs a PVS-22 to work in front of a day optic, and that runs into some serious dough, almost thermal imaging type dough. I have had the best luck using the 14 behind my Aimmpoint M2, as there are no issues with eye relief. Other than that, I would go with a dedicated night optic if you want magnification. The D760 is a good one. I am going to get mine out after some yotes next week.

So you are saying that in front of changes the impact somehow? Don't get that, as the scope never needs to be illuminated even with normal light... just the target.

Its another one of those I don't get why folks want illuminated crosshairs deal... if you can see the target, you'll see non illum just fine.

Given the above example with normal light, whether that be moon or artificial, you use as is and the impact doesn't change.

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Then a PVS-14 should work behind a scout scope then.

how about the raptor...m644 or m646?


E_8!

In essence, when mounting the NOD in front of the scope, you are looking through the scope at a generated image as opposed to the target itself. When mounting the NOD behind the scope, you are looking at a generated image of the crosshairs as aimed at the target. Hard to explain but very simple principle once you understand how the PVS-14 works. With a scout scope and the NOD mounted behind said scope, you should be good to go, I think. Never tried it to see if there would be any problems, but I think it would work.

Cool, don't have a clue how PVS14 works. Don't really much care to understand but would like to have the night vision ability. SO I know now how to work towards that.

Thanks, Jeff