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I'm no spring chicken so if I have the chance to chase elk around the backcountry I'd opt for something light and handy like a Kimber Montana in a 30-06, 180 grain Nosler Partitions if the rifle liked them. I'd have to find a range where I could shoot at longer distance than I do now and after much practice I would decide how far I am capable of getting the job done. I am going to assume that this is a guided hunt as I have never hunted elk so I wouldn't have a clue of how you do it. LOL!!! I'll bet that that hunt would sure be a blast.

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Originally Posted by JohnBurns
I am going to put in my vote for the 264 Win Mag/ 140 VLD combo. I am really liking the results.

No shots through the paunch on the way to the vitals but hit ribs or shoulders and it does the job at any reasonable range.




So (hypothetically) if it's a 3/4 pulling away, last minutes, of last day, ur SOL?

Hardly sounds ideal. Please enlighten...



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3/4 going away I still have the last rib and that is a deadly shot for my combo. It won�t do the texas heart shot so I don�t take the straight going away shot on an unwounded bull. Wounded bull gets one in the pelvis and another in the chest when he collapses and turns.

I won�t trade the range or lethality I get with my choice for the ability to run a bullet through the paunch. Just my choice and one that has worked well for me.

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The "best elk cartridge" is whatever the "best elk hunter" has in his hands...

Me, I'd be most happy with a Kimber MT 84L in 270 with a 3.5-10x40 Leupold B&C on top.



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Best Elk Cartridge in the World??

The answer would be a cartridge that all men, women, youth in this world could carry all day, and accuartely shoot worth a [bleep].

Could it be?

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Originally Posted by '61'10
Best Elk Cartridge in the World??

The answer would be a cartridge that all men, women, youth in this world could carry all day, and accuartely shoot worth a [bleep].

Could it be?

.308win


My little 308 Kimber Montana has accounted for 3 elk... I'd be happy using it on any bull that walks within any reasonable distance (inside 600 yards).

Sure is a pleasure to pack!


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Originally Posted by JohnBurns
I won�t trade the range or lethality I get with my choice for the ability to run a bullet through the paunch. Just my choice and one that has worked well for me.


Why 'caint U have Cake, and eat it also?


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I guess you missed the point of the pointless post. You are supposed to make a pick, not try and run someone else pick down.

Give it another shot Pastor.


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.340 Wby Mag loaded with 250 Nosler Partitions


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Originally Posted by JohnBurns
I guess you missed the point of the pointless post.


Spot on...


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Hey John Burns...let's shoot!!!

I didn't like the way you talked to Stick but I am here...I will shoot with you and I am alot closer than Stick or little fish as you call him..Just call me little logcutter.

I am thinking you are one of the three that beet me at Fort Benning Georga in '67 when I only got 292 out of 300 pop ups silhouettes of a man with an open sighted M-14..I want a rematch..

PM or e-mail me..Winner brags right here...

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I like posts like this. I'd pick a rifle I am very comfortable with: The one that makes the elk the most uncomfortable in my experience. A Ruger M77 MKII in 338 win mag, 250 grain sierra (good for short and long shots) bullet. Accurate enough? Hits hard enough? Is it as classy as my pre 64, hell no; but it gets the job done and in a hurry:


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Yeah, I pulled the last one!!!!!! Pulled to the left huh, Yeah I shoot left handed cool


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I try to stick with the basics, they do so well. Nothing fancy mind you, just plain jane will get it done with style.
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You want to see an animal drop right now? Shoot him in the ear hole.

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Well the hypothetical wasn't very plausible, being on a southwestern rez, even the Jicarilla. Late season Jicarilla, yes you may see them at distance, make sure you get a guide that allows you to shoot long range, second, if you hit an animal, that is yours, recovered or not. Make sure and tell your guide you will tip him no matter if you recover or not, he may let you shoot.

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Pastor,

Missed again but you are welcome to give it another shot.

Lil logcutter,

When can you get to Cody and what is the game and stakes??


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You come here.I can't afford to go there..No game/no stakes just two hunters shooting paper at whatever range you want with the same rifle/scope and ammo.

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Sounds like fun. Can I watch? blush


Originally Posted by raybass
I try to stick with the basics, they do so well. Nothing fancy mind you, just plain jane will get it done with style.
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You want to see an animal drop right now? Shoot him in the ear hole.

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Originally Posted by logcutter
You come here.I can't afford to go there..No game/no stakes just two hunters shooting paper at whatever range you want with the same rifle/scope and ammo.

Jayco


Good grief...


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Maybe you didn't see the post he hammered Big Stick with..Owe well!!!!I will play.I am not the best shot born or the best Elk hunter, but I am also not the worst.We just disagree on what distance a lethal shot can be made time after time on game without game loss or suffering.

I disagree with 5-800 yard shots in the field and all the conditions.

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Lil Logcutter,

Well I can understand how my behavior with Big Stick might have come across as me being an azz. In my defense he did make some rather disparaging remarks regarding my stock. I am going to try and act a little more like an adult in the future.

As to a shooting comp with me supplying the guns and ammo I have to say you would probably kick my azz. I am not the best shot in the world but I do build a pretty good system so I fear you might just hand me a whuppin and that is a long way to drive to get shown up.

You win.


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