Brad says: "Can't fault Rick for his pity letting you back on the fire... but pity it was and remains. Nothing more, nothing less. A sad little man in a sad little dream."
Obama won the popular and electoral vote too...which reiterares why Joe Average ain't much of a cornerstone for picking a winner.
Which would be the point...................
Brad says: "Can't fault Rick for his pity letting you back on the fire... but pity it was and remains. Nothing more, nothing less. A sad little man in a sad little dream."
At a table at a small 1/2 day gun show Saturday, I had a 280 Rem M70 PF for sale. The ONLY comments were along the lines of "What is that?", "I never heard of it." and "What's it look like?"
Brad says: "Can't fault Rick for his pity letting you back on the fire... but pity it was and remains. Nothing more, nothing less. A sad little man in a sad little dream."
The 270 is the second worst use of the '06 hull,when talking .308" bores and under.
The '06 being first...................
Not catching enough on the first line so you have to through in a second?
'Four legs good, two legs baaaad." ---------------------------------------------- "Jimmy, some of it's magic, Some of it's tragic, But I had a good life all the way." (Jimmy Buffett)
Facts is facts...no matter the number of hooks..............
Brad says: "Can't fault Rick for his pity letting you back on the fire... but pity it was and remains. Nothing more, nothing less. A sad little man in a sad little dream."
'Four legs good, two legs baaaad." ---------------------------------------------- "Jimmy, some of it's magic, Some of it's tragic, But I had a good life all the way." (Jimmy Buffett)
There are a lot of cult fans of the 270 out there. The 280 never got the press the 270's got but from actual use the 280 is just a better caliber from my experiences. Bullet performance on game from the 270 is nothing like the 280. I've been able to do so much more with the 280 in the 140-160 grain range of bullets that Ive loaded than any of the 5-6 270's Ive had. Got rid of all the 270's and still have my 280 and 280 AI. My 7mm-08 does better than any 270 Ive ever owned. The 270 is just way over-rated and is a weak offering on the 06 case but the press says otherwise.
My first rifle that I bought with my money was a 280, followed closely by a 7RM, and a couple of 270's in following years. Have shot/loaded/killed more than a few creatures with 270/280/7RM. I wouldn't want to have my face behind any 280 doing 3150 with 140's. My 280 AI Improved (SAUM) will do it but I consider it top end. 2950 with 160's is also dreaming with a 280. Again that is reserved for the 280 AII and only with drop tubing H1000 into the hull.
These threads are a bit comical. Really does it really matter beyond 400 yards? You can't change the physics of bullet drop.
Although I did hear if you mount your scope higher......
7mm-08 7x57 280 284 7mm Remington Mag 7mm WSM 7mm WBY MAG 7mm STW And on down the line > > >
270 270 WSM 270 Weatherby
If this bullet diameter is so great all the above would have been .277 or .270 something or other !
It's not any huge secret, the 7mm bullet diameter is better ! The .280 can do everything the .270 can do with light bullets, but that is where it ends ! The .280 then ends the conversation after the 150 gr. bullet for the .270 ! Thus making the .280 a more versatile round, enabling good performance with 160's-175's ! No argument ! Period ! Prove it wrong ! YOU CANT !
My point being bcp is that the commercial market design around the 270 is pointless ! You cant make anything with superior ballistics over whats out there ! If the 280 would have been the 1925 design, there would be even a shorter list for the 270, probably "0" ! I wont quote the Godfather, because people here tend to not like him talking bad about their stick !
K~
My edit : Whoever knows what I have shot and didnt or owned what I have owned, please give me the score of tonights MNF ! The man is waiting on my wager ! I have 4-280's right now and 2-270's ! From 700 mtn rifle to custom 700's ! Dont think you even know anything about me !
"It's not any huge secret, the 7mm bullet diameter is better !"
Yeah.....007" makes a HUGE difference.
I've always preferred the 280 to the 270 since I got my first in '67. But I really preferred it just because it was different, not because of some illusion that it was really better. The two cartridges are way too close for there to be any significant difference. Given similar bullet designs, you could use either one for the rest of your life and never see any difference in on-game performance.
