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I know that the 9.3 X 62 is a popular cartridge.I have never had one.This statement was made on the 9.3 X 62 thread.
"It is essentially a 375 H&H with five in the magazine."
I dissagree.It is essentially between 35 Whelen and a 375 Whelen.These cartridges were called the poor Mans 375H&H.Yes they can kill big game,no doubt.I do not believe them to be the 375H&H`s equal . whistle


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Originally Posted by Huntz
I know that the 9.3 X 62 is a popular cartridge.I have never had one.


Should have stopped, right there.




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The SD of the 286 gr 9.3 (.366") and the 300gr .375 is the same and in most factory loads so are the real world ballistics. The main difference between them amounts to .009" (the depth of the lands) and 15 grains of bullet weight. I've never seen much difference between them on big bears or moose. Having a couple extra rounds available can be nice though.


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I've got both, my advice is to get a 30-06/.270 style rifle, pay a few bucks to put a 9.3x62 barrel on it and then report back in a few months. You won't see much difference in the .375 and 9.3 for 99.5% of what people normally do with a medium bore.

Except that the 9.3 is way cheaper to build/buy/shoot.

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Originally Posted by Rick_R
Except that the 9.3 is way cheaper to build/buy/shoot.


And typically lighter, and a little easier on the shoulder. grin

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It is also a bit quicker to cycle. That may seem like nit-picking - until you are actually in a split-second life-threatning situation - then it can be important.


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Originally Posted by VAnimrod
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I know that the 9.3 X 62 is a popular cartridge.I have never had one.


Should have stopped, right there.



Well I have a switch barrel Savage with 35 Whelen,375Whelen,400,Whelen barrels.I don`t think I am missing out on anything.I am not degrading the caliber.I have no need for one and do not believe it to be equal to the 375 H&H.Simple fact is it is not equal.I concede it maybe close and the advantage of another round.Shoot what ever trips your trigger and I will shoot what trips mine!!!!!


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one of those new Win extreme weather 30-06 rifles could be a 9.3 x 62 at just 8 pounds with talleys and a 4X scope.

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Duane Wiebe is now making a new mag box to give the M70 classic a 4+1 setup without altering the rifle's trim lines. Perhaps worth consideration. I have shot my father in laws cz 9.3 and it does seem to kick a little less than the 375 but under field conditions one would not notice either. I imagine it would be fairly simple to build a 375 to come in at 8.75 lbs all up and it would be just fine. No different than 12 guage duck loads for that matter.

Both seem like perfectly suitable anything/anytime/anywhere sensible general purpose hunting rounds. Shouldn't we all shoot one or the other and be done with it...?

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i've used the 375 on a few moose with the 270gr TSX2700fps, I 've shoot moose with the 9.3 with the 250gr AB at 2700 fps all the bullets passed through, i couldn't tell the differance in killing power, but its nice to loose 3 lbs of rifle weight for the same recoil level and on target performance and an extra round in the mag......so ya, what ever trips your trigger.

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Originally Posted by 458Win
The SD of the 286 gr 9.3 (.366") and the 300gr .375 is the same and in most factory loads so are the real world ballistics. The main difference between them amounts to .009" (the depth of the lands) and 15 grains of bullet weight. I've never seen much difference between them on big bears or moose. Having a couple extra rounds available can be nice though.


458..,

Just curious. The Fish and Wildlife guys used 12ga. slugs on the bear(s) that supposedly killed and ate Treadway. What would you have used? A 9.3, the 12ga., or something much much bigger? Personally, I'd have left them alone.

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Originally Posted by FOsteology
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Except that the 9.3 is way cheaper to build/buy/shoot.


And typically lighter, and a little easier on the shoulder. grin


+1! wink

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My thinking, I cannot wield a heavy stick as quick as a lighter one. My former 338/06 at 8.0 lbs on the nose had a heavier contour bbl than I'd do again, shot great, but it got 'sluggish' while carrying in hand over the mountains in CO. 8 - 8.5 scoped up seems to be a goal for me on the next mid bore.

I want a SHOOTABLE, PORTABLE rifle, in a round of assertive power for what I would use either for, and I'd enjoy the extra round.

Having fired 338 Win Mags, 375 and 416, I dare say the latter would be VERY difficult for me to get repeat shots off quickly if the situation required - i.e. a charging bear.

I'd take a 375 over a 416, but feel very strongly towards using a 9.3 over the 375. I see the 9.3 killing as well in my mind, as 338s and 375s and feel MY shooting skill w/any will determine the outcome. T

he 9.3 and 338/06 would allow me the best opportunity to confidently fire quickly and accurately w/zero concern for killing power if using good bullets, and most are in these mid bores. I feel the 338 Win Mag, and 375 H&H in LIGHT rifles might not be shot best, nor give as quick repeat shots.

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I claim no expertise,but I have the smaller brother, the 9.3 X 57 in a swede action and I love this thing.Kills elk very well.Not sure a guide would want me to bring one on a safari or a brown bear hunt,but I wwill not prolly go one one of these hunts anyway.

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Originally Posted by OUTCAST

458..,

Just curious. The Fish and Wildlife guys used 12ga. slugs on the bear(s) that supposedly killed and ate Treadway. What would you have used? A 9.3, the 12ga., or something much much bigger? Personally, I'd have left them alone.

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I would have left him alone- and maybe given him a medal grin - but I know at least two of the guys who were in on the kill and one had a shotgun and the other two shooters had their Park Service .40 cal handguns. All three were firing as fast a possible and they had no problems. The park service pilot who was one of the shooters now packs a .50 cal handgun.

When I have to sort out bear problems I have the most faith in my .458


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I'm kind of a 33 kind of fella, so keep that in mind. But by my meager way of thinking I just can't see much diff tween a 9.3x62 and my 338/06 with a 275 SAF.

Phil and or others your thoughts please?

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Originally Posted by Huntz
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I know that the 9.3 X 62 is a popular cartridge.I have never had one.


Should have stopped, right there.



Well I have a switch barrel Savage with 35 Whelen,375Whelen,400,Whelen barrels.I don`t think I am missing out on anything.I am not degrading the caliber.I have no need for one and do not believe it to be equal to the 375 H&H.Simple fact is it is not equal.I concede it maybe close and the advantage of another round.Shoot what ever trips your trigger and I will shoot what trips mine!!!!!


Thank you, for proving more than a few points, right there.




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John Taylor had some interesting comments on the subject.


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Originally Posted by VAnimrod
Originally Posted by Huntz
Originally Posted by VAnimrod
Originally Posted by Huntz
I know that the 9.3 X 62 is a popular cartridge.I have never had one.


Should have stopped, right there.



Well I have a switch barrel Savage with 35 Whelen,375Whelen,400,Whelen barrels.I don`t think I am missing out on anything.I am not degrading the caliber.I have no need for one and do not believe it to be equal to the 375 H&H.Simple fact is it is not equal.I concede it maybe close and the advantage of another round.Shoot what ever trips your trigger and I will shoot what trips mine!!!!!


Thank you, for proving more than a few points, right there.


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Want some cheese with that whine?

I'll take Phil's BT/DT, many times over with both rounds, and my own experience with each, over your guesses.

If that hurts your feeler, feel free to speak with someone who gives a [bleep]... If you can find one.




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