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I have a new marlin xl7 .270 with a vortex 3-9x bdc scope which groups under 3/4" @ 100yds, zero at 250 yds. We do alot of coyote hunting and often take kills at 300-450!yds with ease. Is it possible to make a hit on a coyote target out to 1000yds?
Is there some advise and steps required to accomplish this long range shot, and is it achievable?
Look forward to some field experience on this subject.

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Your new Marlin 270 may punch a 'yote a 300 yds...

but with out a very solid rest...a very good turret scope...

a good range finder....spotter....loads dialed to the scope

.....and of course a target @ 1K yds that stays put...

then a rifle set up to shoot 1K yds...your Marlin is best kept

to more reasonable ranges...the only way I could hit an adult

sized coyote @ 1K yds is if my 18# 260 AI was on my portable

table with my 6500 Tactical dialed to that yardage..and he

stood still for 2 seconds... laugh


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Originally Posted by colonelkeen
I have a new marlin xl7 .270 with a vortex 3-9x bdc scope which groups under 3/4" @ 100yds, zero at 250 yds. We do alot of coyote hunting and often take kills at 300-450!yds with ease. Is it possible to make a hit on a coyote target out to 1000yds?
Is there some advise and steps required to accomplish this long range shot, and is it achievable?
Look forward to some field experience on this subject.


Well if you run the math:

I don't know what bullet you are using, but I figured a 140 gr Hornady BTSP @ 3000 FPS and using your 250 yd zero:

1000 yds. Drop -27.9 MOA Drift FV10 MPH 9.1 MOA

Your scope has 70 MOA of elevation adjustment, and assuming no canted base that 35 MOA up and 35 MOA down. So you should have just enough scope to get to 1k yds.

Now because your rifle shot 3/4" groups @ 100 yds, does not mean it will shoot 7.5" groups @ 1000 yds. And remember your total drop is over 280" and your wind drift is over 90" in a only a 10 mph full value wind.

How big is your coyote?????






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Originally Posted by tikkanut
Your new Marlin 270 may punch a 'yote a 300 yds...

but with out a very solid rest...a very good turret scope...

a good range finder....spotter....loads dialed to the scope

.....and of course a target @ 1K yds that stays put...

then a rifle set up to shoot 1K yds...your Marlin is best kept

to more reasonable ranges...the only way I could hit an adult

sized coyote @ 1K yds is if my 18# 260 AI was on my portable

table with my 6500 Tactical dialed to that yardage..and he

stood still for 2 seconds... laugh


Not to toot my own horn here, but I do a lot of long-range coyote shooting with nothing more than a Tikka T3 in .25-06 and a Burris FFII Tactical 3-9x40 scope shooting 100gr MK's and 115gr Berger VLD's. My longest cold-bore kill on a coyote so far with this rig on a solid rest was 942 yards.

It's definitely possible to do it with the Viper and the .270, assuming you're using the right bullet, the scope is proven to track well and RTZ, and you learn how to shoot the gun at long range...

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Theoretically, there no reason why a .270win shouldn't make a good long range caliber. It sits in between the various 6.5mm and 7mm calibers and offers similar balistics/velocities.

In the real world however, compared with whats available for the 6.5mm and 7mm's, the .270' suffers in that there are not many different types of specialist long range bullets available for it..

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Originally Posted by colonelkeen
I have a new marlin xl7 .270 with a vortex 3-9x bdc scope which groups under 3/4" @ 100yds, zero at 250 yds. We do alot of coyote hunting and often take kills at 300-450!yds with ease. Is it possible to make a hit on a coyote target out to 1000yds?
Is there some advise and steps required to accomplish this long range shot, and is it achievable?
Look forward to some field experience on this subject.


If you have $6000 I think I have a solution.


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Colonelkeen - Berger makes their fine Match-Hunting VLD in 130, 140 & 150 grains. The VLD is a great bullet for long-range shooting and hunting. I'd recommend building your long-range load around one of those, and seeing how it goes for you out at 500, 600 and beyond. You may well get to 1000 yards!

A steady rest, good ammo, a scope that will help you compensate for the drop at long range - and you're on your way. Careful, it's addicting.

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JORDAN- what size groups do you get at 600 and 1000 yard with your 25-06?? to answer the original post what size groups do you get at 600 and 1000 yards? a coyote is around 5 inches give or take. i would repeat what PETE E AND KODIAK SAID. I have shot over 250 coyotes. i also compete in f-class out to 1000 yards.

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Originally Posted by Jordan Smith
Originally Posted by tikkanut
Your new Marlin 270 may punch a 'yote a 300 yds...

but with out a very solid rest...a very good turret scope...

a good range finder....spotter....loads dialed to the scope

.....and of course a target @ 1K yds that stays put...

then a rifle set up to shoot 1K yds...your Marlin is best kept

to more reasonable ranges...the only way I could hit an adult

sized coyote @ 1K yds is if my 18# 260 AI was on my portable

table with my 6500 Tactical dialed to that yardage..and he

stood still for 2 seconds... laugh


Not to toot my own horn here, but I do a lot of long-range coyote shooting with nothing more than a Tikka T3 in .25-06 and a Burris FFII Tactical 3-9x40 scope shooting 100gr MK's and 115gr Berger VLD's. My longest cold-bore kill on a coyote so far with this rig on a solid rest was 942 yards.



Not to bust your bubble but didn't you try to duplicate that 942 yard shot on that dead yote and didn't come within 3 foot of it or something like that?

To be proficient at long range shooting you need to be able to duplicate your shots.

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+1...... A caliber with higher BC bullets make duplication much easier. The 25, 270, 35, and 375 calibers do not have an array of high BC bullets readily availible. Yes there are some small custom makers that make heavy high BC bullets for the above calibers, but one must have a proper twist barrel to utilize the longer higher BC bullets and a factroy 10 twist 270 barrel is not a fast enough twist, for a realy high BC bullet



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Originally Posted by roninflag
JORDAN- what size groups do you get at 600 and 1000 yard with your 25-06?? to answer the original post what size groups do you get at 600 and 1000 yards? a coyote is around 5 inches give or take. i would repeat what PETE E AND KODIAK SAID. I have shot over 250 coyotes. i also compete in f-class out to 1000 yards.


I don't shoot groups at 600 and 1000 yards. I shoot steel and flesh. I get 1/2MOA on average on paper out to 300 yards. Anything past that and I'm not shooting paper.

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Can't you measure the groups on steel?



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Originally Posted by joecool544
Originally Posted by Jordan Smith
Originally Posted by tikkanut
Your new Marlin 270 may punch a 'yote a 300 yds...

but with out a very solid rest...a very good turret scope...

a good range finder....spotter....loads dialed to the scope

.....and of course a target @ 1K yds that stays put...

then a rifle set up to shoot 1K yds...your Marlin is best kept

to more reasonable ranges...the only way I could hit an adult

sized coyote @ 1K yds is if my 18# 260 AI was on my portable

table with my 6500 Tactical dialed to that yardage..and he

stood still for 2 seconds... laugh


Not to toot my own horn here, but I do a lot of long-range coyote shooting with nothing more than a Tikka T3 in .25-06 and a Burris FFII Tactical 3-9x40 scope shooting 100gr MK's and 115gr Berger VLD's. My longest cold-bore kill on a coyote so far with this rig on a solid rest was 942 yards.



Not to bust your bubble but didn't you try to duplicate that 942 yard shot on that dead yote and didn't come within 3 foot of it or something like that?

To be proficient at long range shooting you need to be able to duplicate your shots.


Ummmm, nope. I'm not sure where you're getting that?? I did shoot at a completely separate coyote that was farther out, in a completely different location than the first coyote. They were separated by some elevation change and a big clump of brush. I couldn't get an accurate range reading on that second 'yote, so I don't know exactly how far he was from the first one. He was at least 40-50 yards farther, but it could very well have been 200 yards. At that range it's really hard to tell the difference between 100 yards more or less using a 9x optic. Even if I had "mis-guessed" the range by 30 yards, that would throw my POI off enough to miss. This was simply a "hail mary" shot, nothing more. It was hardly a duplication of the first shot.

I agree with you, though, you need to be able to duplicate your shots. And I can with my rig wink

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Can't you measure the groups on steel?


I suppose, I just hardly ever do. I shoot for hits, and rarely measure group size on the plates. The few times that I have were when the group sizes were exceptional. I fired a group at 560 yards with that same .25-06 using the 100gr MK that measured 1.1" for 3 shots. I thought that was awesome, so I measured it. For the most part, I'm shooting at 1MOA targets and a hit is all I'm concerned with.

BTW, I'm not suggesting that the .270 or .25-06 is the ideal long-range rifle- it's not. But it can be pressed into service adequately if you load the right bullet. There are a few bullets for both the .25-06 and .270 that work quite well.

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What works for me on steel is to paint the gong/steel pre shooting. I love it cause I can instantly see where I hit, 4 me I like to know where I hit it not that I hit it.

Easy to measure groups this way as well.

Works 4 this kiddo

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Originally Posted by Mark R Dobrenski
What works for me on steel is to paint the gong/steel pre shooting. I love it cause I can instantly see where I hit, 4 me I like to know where I hit it not that I hit it.

Easy to measure groups this way as well.

Works 4 this kiddo

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I do the same thing, Dober, I just don't usually get out the tape measure or caliper and actually measure the group sizes. Five hits on the center of the plate gives me the warm fuzzies even if I don't bring the caliper with me. smile

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