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Sounds reasonable for the work, and SSK is top notch but a 416 Ruger Alaskan is around 7 bills for the whole rifle. Action, stock, sights, factory ammo or standard dies... might end up being a couple grand less overall. Now if it was "turn key", then hell yes, even 6 grand more is considered a good deal in these waters...apparently.

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Hi TC

Yes, it would be hard to compete with the 416 Ruger. About the only real advantage to the B&M in direct comparison is the size of the B&M version, and to ME the fact it is a Winchester M70. I am not sure what the Ruger weighs in at, but a 416 B&M with an Ultimate stock will come in at 6.5 lbs with a 20 inch barrel, 6.25 with a 18 inch barrel.

Without doubt the Ruger is a cheaper way to go, and nothing to do or say about that. But I will say the B&M came before the Ruger--HEH!

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Michael...Your line of cartridges is well executed, and there is a lot to be said about that. I prefer the current M70 platform as well. One could start with a new Extreme Weather and end up with a very nice rifle only needing barrel and sights. It would cost more, but sometimes paying more is not a bad idea if a person ends up with what they really want. The 458 B&M looks like a compelling reason to do that.

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Thanks so much, I can tell you the cartridges have far exceeded anything I expected of them from the beginning, and had no idea they would turn out like they did!

In fact, I am totally spoiled now, which has been bad for all the very nice Win M70s I have in 458 Lott, 470 Capstick, 416 Remington, and 458 Winchester, all retired and will never go to the field again! Until one actually puts an 18 or 20 inch B&M in the hands it's nearly impossible to grasp the concept by talking about it, or viewing photos. Once in hand, then it's all over from that point, and comparing side by side with a standard 9.5 24 inch barrel rifle, then everything really goes out the door at that point.

A friend Ron Berry built a 458 B&M on one of the new Extreme Weather guns and he loves it. I have not done so on one of the new Win M70s yet.

Of course no cartridge or rifle is worth it's salt without a good bullet. So I have been working hard for the last year or so for really supreme bullet performance. North Fork now makes bullets specifically for several of the B&M cartridges, as well as Cutting Edge Bullets. They are incredible, and enhance the performance of the rifles and cartridges immensely.

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Originally Posted by TopCat
Sounds reasonable for the work, and SSK is top notch but a 416 Ruger Alaskan is around 7 bills for the whole rifle. Action, stock, sights, factory ammo or standard dies... might end up being a couple grand less overall. Now if it was "turn key", then hell yes, even 6 grand more is considered a good deal in these waters...apparently.

TC



SSK is providing a top of the line barrel with the action squared and blue printed. That's is worth the money to me




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