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BCJR That's one fine looking rig, what optics is it wearing. My preference is for a rig that doesn't need a brake simply for the noise factor and consideration for other guys at the range. I don't need to be removing the caps from their heads at the neighbouring bench if I can help it I suspect the added weight of the Sendero will help in the recoil department...though I have to say I don't like the ambidextrous palm swell they have got going on.
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I love my 300 RUM. It is a hammer, I shoot the 200 accubonds and it does quite well deep downrange.
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BCJR That's one fine looking rig, what optics is it wearing. My preference is for a rig that doesn't need a brake simply for the noise factor and consideration for other guys at the range. I don't need to be removing the caps from their heads at the neighbouring bench if I can help it I suspect the added weight of the Sendero will help in the recoil department...though I have to say I don't like the ambidextrous palm swell they have got going on. nightforce nxs 5.5x22 npr1 ret.I guess if the rig your after isnt a dedicated long range then you dont need a brake(just a stout shoulder) 4 or 5 shots wont be bad but the guy with a brake on a rum can shoot all day,,,funny to me as most guys talk about noise levels and hearing damage with brakes and yet they shoot a rifle with no brake and no hearing protection while hunting..kinda crazy. If there is someone at your range without hearing protection then i guess a report from a braked rifle isnt going to make them any less intelligent! with hearing protection the report isnt bad for the shooter and anyone behind the shooter.I would not own a long range capable rig without a brake. Just my opinion/experience. Also PSS stocks have palm swell not senderos.Best of luck, shoot a bunch!
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300 RUM's are a GOOD thing. Especially with 200gr Accubonds and Retumbo. Unbraked 200yd group: Unbraked 300yd Group: Unbraked 546yd 1 shot group: No brakes on hunting rifles for me!.....................DJ
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Taking the braked issue out of the equation and fair points raised above about ear protection and intelligence :-)
Is it difficult with the loads you guys are using to achieve low velocity spreads?
Also, what sort of terminal performace are you guys seeing between the accubonds and the amax's?
Is anyone using the big sierra 240grain or the new hornady 225grain?
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if ur gonna run 240smk i would install a wyatts extended box mag will allow you to seat the bullets out and take advantage of awesome 300rum case capacity.My deviations with h1000 ARE IN THE LOW LOW TEENS. 300 YARDS WITH A BREAK 3 SHOTS 950 YARDS WITH A BRAKE
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200 gr accubond and 95 gr retumbo = about +/- 3200 fps and recoil is tolerable. I have a NIB M-70 Stainless that I'll begin load development for in the spring, that's where I intend to start. BC is around .571 IIRC You have purchased a great hunting rifle. I owned one of these and topped it off with a 4.5-4 Zeiss Conquest scope and it was probably the most accurate hunting rifle I ever shot. My load was 94gn of Retumbo with the 200gn Accubond for 3170fps and groups that left bullet holes touching more than not. JW
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My load was 94gn of Retumbo with the 200gn Accubond for 3170fps and groups that left bullet holes touching more than not.
JW That's my goal.....whichever charge provides one hole accuracy at 3100+ FPS
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My load was 94gn of Retumbo with the 200gn Accubond for 3170fps and groups that left bullet holes touching more than not.
JW That's my goal.....whichever charge provides one hole accuracy at 3100+ FPS Sounds like a candidate for an Echols Legend, standard fill, to me....
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My load was 94gn of Retumbo with the 200gn Accubond for 3170fps and groups that left bullet holes touching more than not.
JW That's my goal.....whichever charge provides one hole accuracy at 3100+ FPS 3200 FPS is not difficult with a 200 grain AccuBond with great accuracy IME
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I've been pleased with mine... Kirby Allen 300 RUM with 30"bbl 200AB's and Re25 give me 3280fps with low, low ES
Only shot 4 animals past 400 yards so far, but all 4 were bang-flop, DRT
I sure do like a brake to be able to see my bullet impact the animal through the scope. When hunting long range, if I've got the time to range the critter, check the wind with the Kestrel, dial in the dope, then I've also got another 1.5sec to put the earmuffs on.
I think the big 338's would be superior for working beyond 1000 yards or for much bigger game, but for what I do (whitetails between 500-800 yards) it would be hard for someone to convince me there is a better rig than the 300 RUM
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Hi Guys, I am just wondering what everyone's thought's on the 300rum are. There seems to be a lot of talk about the 338cal as being a good long ranger, but the 300rum to my mind get's very little air time by comparison. I would have thought the Sierra 240grain bullet would be very effective and should be launched from the rum with enough velocity to make it useful. The other side of the equation is just how much recoil is generated from the 300. Is it still doable without a muzzlebrake as the bigger 338's tend to require one, unless you are into self harm I'd be interested in your thoughts and experience. LowBC ..........I great long ranged round imo. A handloader can load it down to 300 Win and 300 Bee levels, or go up to full steam. Just a 300 Win and 300 Bee with more juice. If you can handle the recoil, go for it. And speaking of a 338? I recently acquired a new 338-378 Wby Accumark w/brake. So like the 300 RUM, I have the option to load it down to all 338 RUM levels and down to the higher 340 Wby levels. Quite a fun piece of equipment at the range.
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Thanks for the input so far guys.
There are two reasons for choosing the 300 over a 338. I don't think there is a factory rifle with heavy barrel made in 338 to start me off with.
The second is my local range won't allow the big 338's to be shot there...not sure why.
Finally, I figured the 300rum would be a good starting point that when the barrel is stuffed, I can easily change barrels up to a 338edge or the like with minimum fuss.
Sound reasonable?
(With the only exception being a new range will need to be found between now and then.)
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i own a 300rum rem 700 bull bbl 29 in in a boyd varminter and its a breeze to shoot compared to a 338 rum or lapua.i shoot 210 sierras and the accubonds.i wouldnt want to shoot a light bbl 300rum.
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DJ those are some great groups with that 300 RUM, nice work
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x2 on that retumbo, i also get great accuracy out of h4831sc
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My load was 94gn of Retumbo with the 200gn Accubond for 3170fps and groups that left bullet holes touching more than not.
JW That's my goal.....whichever charge provides one hole accuracy at 3100+ FPS Sounds like a candidate for an Echols Legend, standard fill, to me.... Like this one? This was to be the last rifle I ever built...I have since had some thoughts about a custom Mauser and a walking varmint rig, but this is my primary big game rig when the chips are down. I use the 165 AB on deer and the 200AB on anything bigger. Both work very well and the accuracy and consistency are great. Specs on the gun are as follows: 24" Rock #3 barrel( have a fluted Rock #3 waiting for the current tube to burn up), Echols Legend edge left natural, Jewell trigger at 1.5lb, Talley LW, Williams bottom metal, Williams extractor, Wisner bolt release,Sunny Hill supergrade style sling studs, Zeiss Diavari Victory 2.5-10X42mm.
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Low BC, Before you make up your mind see if you can fire a 338 Magnum with 300 gr. Sierra MatchKings from the prone position. I know a High Master who used one in a 1000 yd State Championship. He said he had to dig his toes in to keep from sliding back with every shot! whelennut
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Another thing about the 300 rum is that for whatever reason everyone I have laid hands on has been a shooter and a very easy round to work with. Retumbo, and a GMM215 work well with any bullet from 150-200.
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