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This is a good lesson for those between the age of 20-60 something that was probably not taught in school during the formative years.





Tinian Island, Pacific Ocean.

It's a small island, less than 40 square miles, a flat green dot in the vastness of Pacific blue.
Fly over it and you notice a slash across its north end of uninhabited bush, a long thin line
that looks like an overgrown dirt runway. If you didn't know what it was, you wouldn't give
it a second glance out your airplane window.

On the ground, you see the runway isn't dirt but tarmac and crushed limestone, abandoned with weeds sticking out of it. Yet this is arguably the most historical airstrip on earth. This is where World War II was won. This is Runway Able:



On July 24, 1944, 30,000 US Marines landed on the beaches of Tinian. Eight days later, over 8,000 of the 8,800 Japanese soldiers on the island were dead (vs. 328 Marines that were killed), and four months later the Seabees had built the busiest airfield of WWII - dubbed North Field - enabling B-29 Super fortresses to launch air attacks on the Philippines, Okinawa, and mainland Japan.

Late in the afternoon of August 5, 1945, a B-29 was maneuvered over a bomb loading pit, then after lengthy preparations, taxied to the east end of North Field's main runway, Runway Able, and at 2:45am in the early morning darkness of August 6, took off..

The B-29 was piloted by Col. Paul Tibbets of the US Army Air Force, who had named the plane after his mother, Enola Gay. The crew named the bomb they were carrying Little Boy. 6� hours later at 8:15am Japan time, the first atomic bomb was dropped on Hiroshima.

Three days later, in the pre-dawn hours of August 9, a B-29 named Bockscar (a pun on "boxcar" after its flight commander Capt. Fred Bock), piloted by Major Charles Sweeney took off from Runway Able. Finding its primary target of Kokura obscured by clouds, Sweeney proceeded to the secondary target of Nagasaki, over which, at 11:01am, bombardier Kermit Beahan released the atomic bomb dubbed Fat Man.

Here is "Atomic Bomb Pit #1" where Little Boy was loaded onto Enola Gay:

There are pictures displayed in the pit, now glass-enclosed. This one shows Little Boy being hoisted into Enola Gay's bomb bay.

And here on the other side of ramp is "Atomic Bomb Pit #2" where Fat Man was loaded onto Bockscar.
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The commemorative plaque records that 16 hours after the nuking of Nagasaki, "On August 10, 1945 at 0300, the Japanese Emperor without his cabinet's consent decided to end the Pacific War."

Take a good look at these pictures, folks. This is where World War II ended with total victory of America over Japan. I was there all alone. There were no other visitors and no one lives anywhere near for miles. Visiting the Bomb Pits, walking along deserted Runway Able in solitude, was a moment of extraordinarily powerful solemnity.

It was a moment of deep reflection. Most people, when they think of Hiroshima and Nagasaki, reflect on the numbers of lives killed in the nuclear blasts - at least 70,000 and 50,000 respectively. Being here caused me to reflect on the number of lives saved - how many more Japanese and Americans would have died in a continuation of the war had the nukes not been dropped.

Yet that was not all. It's not just that the nukes obviated the US invasion of Japan , Operation Downfall, that would have caused upwards of a million American and Japanese deaths or more. It's that nuking Hiroshima and Nagasaki were of extraordinary humanitarian benefit to the nation and people of Japan.

Let's go to this cliff on the nearby island of Saipan to learn why:
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Saipan is less than a mile north of Tinian. The month before the Marines took Tinian, on June 15, 1944, 71,000 Marines landed on Saipan. They faced 31,000 Japanese soldiers determined not to surrender.

Japan had colonized Saipan after World War I and turned the island into a giant sugar cane plantation. By the time of the Marine invasion, in addition to the 31,000 entrenched soldiers, some 25,000 Japanese settlers were living on Saipan, plus thousands more Okinawans, Koreans, and native islanders brutalized as slaves to cut the sugar cane.

There were also one or two thousand Korean "comfort women" (kanji in Japanese), abducted young women from Japan�s colony of Korea to service the Japanese soldiers as sex slaves. (See The Comfort Women: Japan�s Brutal Regime of Enforced Prostitution in the Second World War, by George Hicks.)

Within a week of their landing, the Marines set up a civilian prisoner encampment that quickly attracted a couple thousand Japanese and others wanting US food and protection. When word of this reached Emperor Hirohito - who contrary to the myth was in full charge of the war - he became alarmed that radio interviews of the well-treated prisoners broadcast to Japan would subvert his people's will to fight.

As meticulously documented by historian Herbert Bix in Hirohito and the Making of Modern Japan, the Emperor issued an order for all Japanese civilians on Saipan to commit suicide. The order included the promise that, although the civilians were of low caste, their suicide would grant them a status in heaven equal to those honored soldiers who died in combat for their Emperor.

And that is why the precipice in the picture above is known as Suicide Cliff, off which over 20,000 Japanese civilians jumped to their deaths to comply with their fascist emperor's desire - mothers flinging their babies off the cliff first or in their arms as they jumped.

Anyone reluctant or refused, such as the Okinawan or Korean slaves, were shoved off at gunpoint by the Jap soldiers. Then the soldiers themselves proceeded to hurl themselves into the ocean to drown off a sea cliff afterwards called Banzai Cliff. Of the 31,000 Japanese soldiers on Saipan, the Marines killed 25,000, 5,000 jumped off Banzai Cliff, and only the remaining thousand were taken prisoner.

The extent of this demented fanaticism is very hard for any civilized mind to fathom - especially when it is devoted not to anything noble but barbarian evil instead. The vast brutalities inflicted by the Japanese on their conquered and colonized peoples of China, Korea, the Philippines, and throughout their "Greater East Asia Co-Prosperity Sphere" was a hideously depraved horror.

And they were willing to fight to the death to defend it. So they had to be nuked. The only way to put an end to the Japanese barbarian horror was unimaginably colossal destruction against which they had no defense whatever. Nuking Japan was not a matter of justice, revenge, or it getting what it deserved. It was the only way to end the Japanese dementia.

And it worked - for the Japanese. They stopped being barbarians and started being civilized. They achieved more prosperity - and peace - than they ever knew, or could have achieved had they continued fighting and not been nuked. The shock of getting nuked is responsible.

We achieved this because we were determined to achieve victory. Victory without apologies. Despite perennial liberal demands we do so, America and its government has never apologized for nuking Japan . Hopefully, America never will.


Oh, yes... Guinness lists Saipan as having the best, most equitable, weather in the world. And the beaches? Well, take a look:

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Very good post Okie.

I think the dropping of the atomic bombs had a far greater value than even the saved Japanese and American lives.

Is there any doubt that the USSR and the Western Allies (primarily America) would have fought another, more terrible war in the years after WWII had not the US demonstrated the awesome destruction able to be visited upon an enemy with atomic weapons?

I think those two bombs saved more lives than any other single act of the 20th century.

This presentation of the Final Chapter deserves more play.

excellent post.

to this day, i have to explain to kids my own age why we nuked them. they dont admire history for what it will teach you. i do.

very well written.

Thanks for sharing this. You get a very top level view growing up. Seeing this and reading your write-up beats years of public education on the matter.

The Atom Bomb, another fine weapon designed in TN. along with the Barrett products.

Thanks an interesting story.

I have a book entitled "Obi, The last Samurai" the story of Saipan told from the Japanese perspective. Obi says he knew the war was over when the US fired a 16" round to blast a Japanese sniper from a tree. Still the Japanese fought on.

I just wonder if it was the radiation that spawned all of the Japanese videos of people pooping on each other. Sick folks.

Heck, Americans do it, Germans, do it, French, do it, British do it, etc. According to my Google Fu it's pretty common. Not something I'd do but I guess many do it.

Thank you OrangeOkie for your superb post on the war with the Japs.

Those barbarians killed my uncle there in Luzon and we would have lost so many invading their mainland as they are fanatics.

Nuking the Japs was awesome. Too bad President Truman only had two bombs and couldn't finish the job.

What shouldn't be forgotten is that our 'conventional' method of bombing city's (the fire bombing) killed many more Japs than the two atomic bombs did. For some reason it failed to get their attention the way two atomic bombs did though.

You think they teach bad history here, you need to see how they teach it in Japan (or don't teach it). Not much mention of all those things leading up to the event, more like we somehow were the aggressors when we nuked them.

Both my father and uncle returned from Europe in 45(Dad after 8 months in a German POW camp).Both volunteered for the Canadian division being formed to take part with the US Army and Marines in the invasion of Japan.Thank God for the A Bomb.Allied losses would have been catastrophic if the invasion had taken place. Monashee

Excellent, informative post. Thanks

I think the firebombing didn't get their attention because first, they understood the technology as the Japanese had flame throwers. Second, they had the technology to fight the fires and shoot the bombers down. With the A bomb they had no defenses, did not understand the technology, and the destruction was so fast and swift the Japanese were stunned by what happen.

great Post Okie.... for those that like to read...Unbreakable, FlyBoys, With the Old Breed... are great books that are a heck of history lesson to boot....

Yep, at the end of the war Kobe was 80% scoured, meaning down to the dirt destroyed.

History is bunk. Victors write official records and produce heroic myths to cover true motive. But the internet and casual research open the doors and turn on the lights. You don't have to look or hold your nose. Doesn't change a thing.

carlgustav,

With only 7 posts your on ignore. Thats a record of sorts.