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Although I have rifles worth many multiples of the Savage 116, I still like it. For a knock around rifle to throw in the truck and not worry about, it would be hard to beat. And all SS and synthetic, it wouldn't rust (not very fast, anyway). With just a bit of care it would serve one well for many years.

DF

Facts interest me,always have.

I can think of no Maker that's warranted more continual improvement,than Salvage.

Handy that [bleep] floats,as they make fair to middlin' life rings............

Looks like you've probably shot a recent vintage Savage, which is what steers you away from comments other than vagaries.

People love to waste money but you have to spend double to beat a Savage.

One of the folks thats done the research and verified fliers is none other than G David Tubb....

I have yet to have my 7x300 wtby settle down to solid accuracy without a flier now and then too.....

Ask many competitive shooters out there why they are NOT running 7mm and the answer is unexplained fliers... 6.5 does not produce them. Why? I have no clue and why the 7 does I have no clue, doesn't make sense, but then sometimes target accuracy is more demanding than what hunters demand.

I asked Butch Searcy the same question back in the 80's and he said the same thing rost says....with the same reasons....he did not know why but theorized it was just bullets;it being maybe more difficult to make target grade 7mm bullets.

Maybe important to match shooters in strings of shots,but I don't see the same tendency in hunting rifles,and have never observed this with hunting bullets;nor has it ever been an issue for ne with hunting rifles in 7mm.

Just a shame that you never use them

Easy there, rockchuck, Big Stick may have sensitive feelings...

DF

Whooping a Salvage,is akin to sneaking up on a glass of water. Turd polishers gotta tell themselves sumptin' and that never ain't not funny.

You're on an Epic roll...............

Summons all of your Imagination and try to fabricate where you think I'm mistaken.

It'll be funny!...................

been shooting a 7mm RM for over 20 years. Never had a wild flier that wasn't my fault... It shoots like this when I do my part.

168 Bergers @ 3040fps here at 4650 asl
Factory rifle

Good group. From your name, could we assume that your 7mm RM is a Sendero? I have a close friend who has Sendero's in .270 and 7mm RM. Both are tack drivers and he loves them both. Here in Louisiana, he uses the .270 most and is deadly with that gun. It's a bit heavy to pack around, but it shoots so good, he doesn't mind the freight. He shot a Pronghorn in New Mexico last year at near 400 yds. Antelope was DRT. Those things are easy to kill, not so easy to hit.

I see you're using Retumbo. Good powder. I've worked up loads with it for my .257 WM. It and RL-25 were the top two performers in that caliber. Looks like it's working pretty well for you.

DF

Montucky 7 Whizzum..................

Yes, it is a factory Sendero, original model. Put an aftermarket trigger on it, bedded the action and had the crown trued up.

Retumbo is very temp stable and works well for me. Taken many critters with it....

85 1/4 " B&C speed goat at 386...

Ya pulled one.....

I should go Decaf and try a bench with a rest sometime.

Hasty MPAJ will only do so much..................(grin)

Sendero,

Great speed goat. Good looking hunting associate holding the big rifle.

Big Stick,

Fine 7 Whizzum group. What did it measure? Looks like .3" or maybe less. No telling what it would have been without that "flyer". What bullets are you shooting?

DF

7wsm seems to be the anomoly once you get in 7mm past 284 speeds basically.

But then again we shot at 1000 yards, 7mms are not the thing, and we shoot from 15 up to 22 plus shots that have to stay in a group...

I don't follow 1000 yard BR that much but IIRC you don't see a lot of 7mms in that game either.

anyone can post 100 or 300 yard groups, talking long range when you post composite 1000 yard groups thats where the issues manifest themselves.

Of course some folks are probably much better shots than David Tubb. Me, I tend to listen when David speaks. He's only a few national XC and LR champs under the belt....

thanks Dirt...

that was 5 years ago... he is now 12 and hooked hard on hunting. He got his first goat and deer this year... many PD's and coyotes before, the boy can shoot !

Nice video.

A rare day in Wy.? No wind??

Fun to watch the kids get hooked on this hunting and shooting stuff..you`ll have a partner for life.

Rost, are those flyers you are referring to supposed to be limited to the 7RM or all 7mms?
I have not been seing any wild flyers from the guys running 284wins at the f-class matches I have attended. The 7WSM does not seem to hold any flyers with the heavy bullets as far as I can find.
I shot the best 1000 yard group I ever shot with a 7RM in a hunting rifle no less. Truthfully, it was one of them anomalies. I have never been able to repeat that group at 1K with anything. I did find the 7RM to be a bit finicky until I started taking more care with my brass. I have not had a problem since I started using a false shoulder and creating a crush fit when I fireform.