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I have only ever used a 22lr growing up in AK. Marlin Papoos to be exact. I never lost one I hit. I did miss a few, and a few took a few extra shots but I never lost one. If I was going to do it again I would probably go Hornet or 17AH. or 22mag with todays ammo.

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I only saw one or two people mention the 204 Ruger. Is that a bad choice from your experience<

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For saving fox hides?

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I once had a friend (gunsmith) who built a .17-Remington back in the 70's, it was fast and I could not believe the way it took down fox, coon or even coyotes back in those days. I used a .222 Remington with 40 grn bullets and I thought it still killed as good or better........at least I could find ammo for my rifle.


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My two fox specific guns are a Sako 75 Hunter in .17 Rem and a Remington 597 in .17 Hmr. Both reliably anchor foxes within their effective ranges. However, a 17 Rem will make hamburger out of them if they're too close.

Why no love for the 17 hmr? Shocking! lol. Great little fox round imo. Foxes are tiny and the 20 grain CCI gamepoint puts 'em down for the count out to 125 or so. YMMV

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my only concern with the HMR is the limited range in the open area I hunt in. Would hate to pass on a 200 yd shot which would be beyond the rimfires range. The 17 hornet is a good one as well as the MK4/Fireball. As far as pelt damage is concerned no one can convince me that any centerfire 17 does less damage than the other. Let's face it folks a fox is about a thin skinned furbearer there is and if you want to argue the damage you either have not shot and skinned many fox or you are simply full of sh%t Russ

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Originally Posted by blanket
my only concern with the HMR is the limited range in the open area I hunt in. Would hate to pass on a 200 yd shot which would be beyond the rimfires range. The 17 hornet is a good one as well as the MK4/Fireball. As far as pelt damage is concerned no one can convince me that any centerfire 17 does less damage than the other. Let's face it folks a fox is about a thin skinned furbearer there is and if you want to argue the damage you either have not shot and skinned many fox or you are simply full of sh%t Russ


All that said, IMO, a 12ga w/Federal Premium copper plated BB's, a 22mag, and a .17 Fireball with 20gr V-max cover all conversation as far as foxes, fur, and range are concerned! If forced to hunt one gun, it would be the Fireball/20gr V-max combo for me!!


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64-Kodiak......The .17-HMR I had, model 93 Savage did in fact knock several fox down but it failed to keep them there and they ran off into the woodline after trying to catch some of my pigeons. I had good blood on the ground but time after time the .17-HMR proved fruitless against the fox or coon in my neck of the woods.

This rifle was traded in recentley on a Savage 93 in .22mag and when using 50 grain bullets, it works like a dream under 75 yards. The wife and I both have those Savage .22 mags!


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Interesting, I've also knocked down a few coyotes with mine at 100 yds and less, boiler room shots. What ammo were you using?

Remember, the hmr has more energy at 150 than a 22lr does at the muzzle. It aint no pellet gun. It's too bad you had some bad experiences with it. I'm personally thoroughly impressed with it.

The 22 mag is a great caliber for fox and short range coyotes as well. Good luck with those Savages, they're really nice weapons.

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