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Vapo: Got any good loads for that one?
The 280 Remington is overbore.
The 7 Rem Mag is over bore.
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I try to stick with the basics, they do so well. Nothing fancy mind you, just plain jane will get it done with style. You want to see an animal drop right now? Shoot him in the ear hole. BSA MAGA
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I've got 3 Coopers and they all exceed the 1/2" accuracy guarantee. Except for a broken extractor on my .22 lr, which was quickly fixed, they have worked flawlessly. I've been very happy with them. I know you build rifles, and from all appearances they appear to be fine and accurate rifles. I've had 5 custom rifles. Two were extremely accurate, as represented. One was a 3/4" rifle which was okay for it's intended use, elk, the other two would not shoot an inch no matter the load or components combination. None of the makers would guarantee accuracy, and the two that I couldn't get to shoot, all the builders would say is it must be you because my guns shoot. I sent one back and it came back looking like an apprentice had worked it over. Enough bad luck. The Coopers have treated me right, and I don't give a damn about Dan Coopers political leanings. He's gone.
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That's what it is all about,Cobrad..If it ain't broke don't fix it..What has worked for some of us just isn't in with the new crowd of hunters and the new whiz bang mags.
Just the basics work for me and when Hunting or a caliber get's boring to me,I'll quit hunting all together and save tons of Bucks..
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Just the basics work for me and when Hunting or a caliber get's boring to me,I'll quit hunting all together and save tons of Bucks..
Jayco That's when a fella starts turning his attention to Sharps rifles, blackpowder and longrange gongs
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Black Powder..Yikes..I can't hardly get 3 bullets down the barrel of my .50 Thompson without sticking one with regular BP..But that old .50 Thompson is one of the best handles for my Handy Man jack I have ever used,not that I'm short on patients in anyway. Yup..That Buffalo Classic sure has my attention though.. Jayco
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No you need something real, like a Winchester 1885 or 74 sharps.
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No you need something real, like a Winchester 1885 or 74 sharps. Dang Ranch...That's a whole new hobby but I can think of alot worse. Thinking.... Jayco
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Ha looks like a hobby but you soon find it's an addiction. lol
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Okay, let's not get started on the lever thing... I have a powerful hankerin' for one of Turnbulls' 1886's in his .475.
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Oh I don't know, if a person thinks smokeless powder is the thing to do a garden variety 95 winchester in 405 is a handy lil bugger But if your thinking bp a 500 gr paper patched 45 caliber paper patched bullet gives a pretty spectacular kill shot
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But Ranch...Even though that worked on 10 zillion Buffalo,that's not an Elk Load here on the net... Jayco
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heheh, don't tell that poor lilrag horn that. He was just wandering along minding his own business when all of a sudden wahp, one of those things caught him on a bit of a quartering angle at 200 yds, folded his legs in mid air and dropped him like a bag of sand...
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I've killed exactly two elk, one with a 30.06 with 165 gr Nosler Partition and one with a 300 Win Mag with 180 gr Nosler Partition. The next time I go, I will take my 30.06. The older I get the more I like my 30.06.
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heheh, don't tell that poor lilrag horn that. He was just wandering along minding his own business when all of a sudden wahp, one of those things caught him on a bit of a quartering angle at 200 yds, folded his legs in mid air and dropped him like a bag of sand... Naw....The energy/SD and velocity was just not there... Leave it to facts over data... Jayco
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Yeh stupid me.... I keep forgetting that a 454 handgun is powerful enough for anything anywhere, but a 45-70 rifle with 300 gr factory loads is barely pika adequate.
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Yeh stupid me.... I keep forgetting that a 454 handgun is powerful enough for anything anywhere, but a 45-70 rifle with 300 gr factory loads is barely pika adequate. Funny how that works. None of the rifles below are any damn good for elk - stunts all. Top to bottom: Marlin 1895, .45-70 Marlin 375, .375 win Marlin 336CS, .30-30 Browning B92, .44 Mag
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I've killed exactly two elk, one with a 30.06 with 165 gr Nosler Partition and one with a 300 Win Mag with 180 gr Nosler Partition. The next time I go, I will take my 30.06. The older I get the more I like my 30.06. Why not use the 280AI? It's whole lot cooler!
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Good point but my 30.06 is about 1.5 lbs lighter. That first climb in the morning kicks my butt.
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