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I have seen plenty of 99 s with fit and finish that were not numbers matching that were better than numbers matching. I don't open up all of my guns and don't encourage it but with a good screw driver kit and an intelligent fellow, it's not a big deal... I would want to know before I bought the OPs gun...
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Might could be that the point trying to be conveyed is being missed... I assure you that I never asked about nor removed the buttplate or forearm before I purchased either one of those rifles. It really never concerned me. I could see that both these rifles are as they're supposed to be (right). I also assure you that the fella I sold these rifles to never asked "Do the numbers match" or requested to remove any parts prior to purchasing. I'm not telling Don,or anyone for that matter,that he can't put screwdrivers to his rifles...any more than I'd tell him not to build a vault in a snowbank so that his rifles collect red rust. To each their own...Have at um. Point being...you better know what your looking at...or your gonna get boned. Any idiot with a number stamp kit can stamp numbers. Is the fit and finish right? Seems like a foxnut would know.
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Might be that you missed the smileys...
But that also being said, I've only got 5 years into looking at used guns and Savages. To think that I or many others here have anywhere near the expertise of yourself, Fug, Jeff, Rick, or others is silly. Especially when looking at something like the original poster's question involving a special order rifle in a period where special orders were few and far between, AND when the stock looks refinished.
And on some of these odd rifles the fit and finish are still correct because they were sent back to the factory for more work.
In short.. ain't no harm in asking politley if they've checked the serial numbers, or if they'd mind doing so. Worst they'll do is say no. If they get angry, then they either have anger mgmt issues, or there might be a very good reason they don't want you to check the numbers. Jmho..
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There is not enough darkness in all the world to put out the light of even one small candle----Robert Alden . If it wern't entertaining, I wouldn't keep coming back.------the BigSky
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Norm, I don't know if snake oil would help, maybe a tub full of nair !! nope nair wouldn't work either just be ugly and hairless then !!!!! Don
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Norm, I don't know if snake oil would help, maybe a tub full of nair !! nope nair wouldn't work either just be ugly and hairless then !!!!! Don LOLOLOL yea but Cheryl would still love ya
There is not enough darkness in all the world to put out the light of even one small candle----Robert Alden . If it wern't entertaining, I wouldn't keep coming back.------the BigSky
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Nah. I didn't miss the smileys. I just don't use them very often. Do you not see me smiling? I am. The wood has been refinished....how important is it that the wood be correct? It's a shooter. Question now should be: How's the bore? The harm in asking about wood numbers at a show...I'm not keen on educating those stupid bastards. I don't need to show them that I know something. I am curious though as to how much they are willing to tell me that they think they know. That's usually good for a chuckle.
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Loggah, what is the caliber and barrel length of your rifle?
Savage...never say "never". Rick...
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Rick, Its a 250-3000 with a 22" barrel. Don
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Jed, Wow, I came to this board to ask the "experts" their opinion on the rifle in question. To answer your question, when I am looking at a Fox or other double I can usually, (but not always) tell if it is original config and finish. That being said, on the old Foxes the serial number is stamped on the barrel flats, receiver, trigger guard, forend iron, forend wood, and on the head of the stock where it fits into the receiver. There is no serial number stamped on the butt plate or the butt of the stock. No, I wouldn't ask to remove the stock for obvious reasons, but I would ask to remove the forend, look at the barrels, etc.
You made a very good point that guys will re-stamp parts and some wood work and finish is hard to tell from the original. All the more reason to want to confirm and get some input from the gang here. I am not as knowledgable on the 99's. That's exacly why I came here to see if anyone had ever seen a G with a cresent butt plate, I hadn't.
To all that posted feedback thanks for your help. Foxnut
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I would experience a greater sense of relaxation if Savage never numbered their wood or buttplates.
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My only tool for removing gun screws is an old rusty Kamp King boy scout knife. Never failed me. Anybody need their butt plate removed? If the butt plate screws are frozen tight, just give them a shot of heat from a propane torch. That'll fix 'em. When putting them back in, be sure to put glue on the threads to foil the attempts of future owners to remove them. --Taken from gnoahhh's soon to be released book "Bubba's Guide to Kitchen Table Gunsmithing". Coming to a flea market near you.
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