|
Joined: Jan 2002
Posts: 10,612 Likes: 1
Campfire Outfitter
|
Campfire Outfitter
Joined: Jan 2002
Posts: 10,612 Likes: 1 |
One problem was the bullet, the 110 grain soft points were sort of slow to expand past 40 or 50 yards. Isn''t the problem that the 30 carb is more like a pistol than a rifle cartridge? So I would treat it like a 9mm pistol. Anything that you would hunt with a 9mm would be perfect for the 30 carb. Deer would be out smaller stuff would be good though. IMHO. While it might work for deer and bigger stuff in a pinch. It would not be my choice as the risk of wounding and losing an animal that sze is pretty high.
Last edited by ConradCA; 02/10/11.
|
|
|
|
Joined: Jul 2006
Posts: 8,514
Campfire Outfitter
|
Campfire Outfitter
Joined: Jul 2006
Posts: 8,514 |
The round used to be specifically mentioned in the MN state regs as being illegal for deer.They changed rules awhile back,I dont know if it is legal now or not.
********************** [the member formerly known as fluffy}
|
|
|
|
Joined: Apr 2004
Posts: 61,130
Campfire Kahuna
|
Campfire Kahuna
Joined: Apr 2004
Posts: 61,130 |
Ballistically, it's essentially a semi-automatic .32-20.
Judge accordingly.
|
|
|
|
Joined: Aug 2003
Posts: 10,262
Campfire Outfitter
|
Campfire Outfitter
Joined: Aug 2003
Posts: 10,262 |
they were designed for close work for the military.building clearing ETC not for field long range work. used at short range 50 yds and under they will take any North American game. less grizzley bears.
|
|
|
|
Joined: Sep 2006
Posts: 18,005
Campfire Ranger
|
Campfire Ranger
Joined: Sep 2006
Posts: 18,005 |
Ballistically, it's essentially a semi-automatic .32-20.
Judge accordingly. Yes and no, depending on the bullet used. A softpoint .32-20 bullet, yes; a cast lead .32-20 bullet, no. I know a bunch of old-timers who took their first deer with a .32-20. It was a popular "boy's caliber" for deer hunting up here in Wisconsin back in the day.
"I'm gonna have to science the schit out of this." Mark Watney, Sol 59, Mars
|
|
|
|
Joined: Jan 2003
Posts: 10,977 Likes: 1
Campfire Outfitter
|
Campfire Outfitter
Joined: Jan 2003
Posts: 10,977 Likes: 1 |
I saw a short on this titled something like "The much maligned 30 carbine". They shot some melons and things if I recall but in the end said it was a fine deer round -for close shots of course. I would much rather go against a guy with a 9mm at 70 yds than one of these. Seem like the ideal truck gun. Anyone know off top how it stacks up against say a mini 30?
When a country is well governed, poverty and a mean condition are something to be ashamed of. When a country is ill governed, riches and honors are something to be ashamed of . Confucius
|
|
|
|
Joined: Sep 2009
Posts: 1,464
Campfire Regular
|
Campfire Regular
Joined: Sep 2009
Posts: 1,464 |
I have a 30 Carbine with a slightly bent barrel. I bought it two years ago, it came with 600 rounds of 110 grn metal case UMC.
I have never fired it. Any suggestions about a source for a new barrel?
I've built up 3 carbines on CMP receivers with parts from Fulton Armory. http://fulton-armory.com/
Murphy was an optimist.
|
|
|
|
Joined: Jan 2003
Posts: 10,977 Likes: 1
Campfire Outfitter
|
Campfire Outfitter
Joined: Jan 2003
Posts: 10,977 Likes: 1 |
When a country is well governed, poverty and a mean condition are something to be ashamed of. When a country is ill governed, riches and honors are something to be ashamed of . Confucius
|
|
|
|
Joined: Jul 2007
Posts: 6,418
Campfire Tracker
|
Campfire Tracker
Joined: Jul 2007
Posts: 6,418 |
7.62x39 has about 400 fps and 13 grains in bullet weight over the .30 Carbine. Accuracy in most of its semi auto platforms is good to fair, depending upon criteria, but MOH out to 300 meters.
If the American People allow private banks to control the issuance of their currency, first by inflation, then by deflation, the banks..., will deprive the People of all their Property,...Thomas Jefferson
|
|
|
|
Joined: Oct 2009
Posts: 7,967
Campfire Outfitter
|
Campfire Outfitter
Joined: Oct 2009
Posts: 7,967 |
I have a 30 Carbine with a slightly bent barrel. I bought it two years ago, it came with 600 rounds of 110 grn metal case UMC.
I have never fired it. Any suggestions about a source for a new barrel?
I've built up 3 carbines on CMP receivers with parts from Fulton Armory. http://fulton-armory.com/ Can't a gunsmith straighten a slightly bent barrel?
Fall seven times, stand up eight.
|
|
|
|
Joined: Jan 2005
Posts: 57,494
Campfire Kahuna
|
Campfire Kahuna
Joined: Jan 2005
Posts: 57,494 |
Ballistically, it's essentially a semi-automatic .32-20.
Judge accordingly. I agree, and I tend to keep my 32-20 shots on deer to around 50 yards or under... its worked just fine every last time. I have not run a carbine into a game animal yet, but being the ballistics are about the same, given the right bullet choice, and some ethics on distances, angles, size of game, and shot location, good to go.
We can keep Larry Root and all his idiotic blabber and user names on here, but we can't get Ralph back..... Whiskey Tango Foxtrot, over....
|
|
|
|
Joined: Sep 2001
Posts: 19,093 Likes: 4
Campfire Ranger
|
Campfire Ranger
Joined: Sep 2001
Posts: 19,093 Likes: 4 |
I used an Iver Johnson 30 carbine a long time ago to hunt wild goats, on an island off SoCal. It worked fine with 110gr round nose soft points.
|
|
|
|
Joined: Jan 2005
Posts: 57,494
Campfire Kahuna
|
Campfire Kahuna
Joined: Jan 2005
Posts: 57,494 |
Interesting article... I"ve only talked to vets that used it from the Korean war, and to the last one they all said it was gimme an M1 anyday. Evidently the round did not do well for one shot stops especially against the heavily clothed Chinese troops... while they'd shoot one and knock him down, he'd be right back up again. One Staff Sgt even said he preferred the 45... But its all I heard, I have no personal experience of course.
We can keep Larry Root and all his idiotic blabber and user names on here, but we can't get Ralph back..... Whiskey Tango Foxtrot, over....
|
|
|
|
Joined: Jul 2007
Posts: 6,418
Campfire Tracker
|
Campfire Tracker
Joined: Jul 2007
Posts: 6,418 |
I have a 30 Carbine with a slightly bent barrel. I bought it two years ago, it came with 600 rounds of 110 grn metal case UMC.
I have never fired it. Any suggestions about a source for a new barrel?
Try Gunbroker. I have a Carbine that had a worn out barrel (last four inches smooth) and bought one from a guy on GB and had my armorer install it.
If the American People allow private banks to control the issuance of their currency, first by inflation, then by deflation, the banks..., will deprive the People of all their Property,...Thomas Jefferson
|
|
|
|
Joined: Sep 2001
Posts: 19,093 Likes: 4
Campfire Ranger
|
Campfire Ranger
Joined: Sep 2001
Posts: 19,093 Likes: 4 |
I'd put the 30 Carbine way ahead of a 9mm pistol.
A 110gr bullet at 2000 fps/977 ft-lbs, is a lot more snot than a 124gr at 1200 fps/396 ft-lbs.
|
|
|
|
Joined: Sep 2009
Posts: 1,464
Campfire Regular
|
Campfire Regular
Joined: Sep 2009
Posts: 1,464 |
If you'd hunt it with a .357, you can hunt it with a carbine, keeping it under 75-100 yards. And they're not nearly as inaccurate as many believe.
Murphy was an optimist.
|
|
|
|
Joined: Aug 2002
Posts: 19,129 Likes: 2
Campfire Ranger
|
Campfire Ranger
Joined: Aug 2002
Posts: 19,129 Likes: 2 |
It was a popular "boy's caliber" for deer hunting up here in Wisconsin back in the day. I always get a laugh out of how much easier deer are to kill for boys, and women. miles
Look out for number 1, don't step in number 2.
|
|
|
|
Joined: Jan 2010
Posts: 15,385
Campfire Ranger
|
Campfire Ranger
Joined: Jan 2010
Posts: 15,385 |
boo fall over @<125 yds ...Besides, it sounds like America when it�s going off oh yea!!!!
Last edited by atvalaska; 02/10/11.
I work harder than a ugly stripper....
|
|
|
|
Joined: Feb 2007
Posts: 1,509
Campfire Regular
|
Campfire Regular
Joined: Feb 2007
Posts: 1,509 |
One of the guys I worked with in Alaska used his carbine for caribou - he used surplus fmj ammo....
|
|
|
|
Joined: Mar 2005
Posts: 5,609 Likes: 1
Campfire Tracker
|
Campfire Tracker
Joined: Mar 2005
Posts: 5,609 Likes: 1 |
|
|
|
|
663 members (10gaugemag, 1badf350, 1936M71, 10Glocks, 12344mag, 19rabbit52, 58 invisible),
2,434
guests, and
1,229
robots. |
Key:
Admin,
Global Mod,
Mod
|
|
Forums81
Topics1,193,626
Posts18,512,025
Members74,010
|
Most Online11,491 Jul 7th, 2023
|
|
|
|