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Don't need to eat a [bleep] sandwhich, and all that..........
The CENTER will hold.
Reality, Patriotism,Trump: you can only pick two
FÜCK PUTIN!
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Wow, so you haven't killed anything with a Barnes? Have you ever imagined killing something with a Barnes? What were the particulars of that imaginary hunt?
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My .243 is going to be spitting out 85 grain TSXs for this deer season, and I am just as confident that they will do what needs to get done as I am in my .30-06 with 180 grain partitions. Big whoop. The .243 just happens to be lighter, and is plastic stocked (Micky on the way!), so it will get hauled more frequently, if I had to make a guess.
This isn't 'Nam Donny, there are RULES...
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Got a call from Barnes today the first 7mm LRXs will be tipped this week and I am supposed to get a few boxes.
The LRX is a tipped X with a higher BC and lower min velocity for expansion.
Time will tell if they are an improvement but we hope so.
We have to set a few guns up each year for California�s no lead zones and this might be just the ticket.
John Burns
I have all the sources. They can't stop the signal.
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Even with the naysayers - and they are few - in comparison to the converted - I noticed no "failure" pictures showing the newer TTSX design.
I suspect we won't be seeing any either. First one of the Pic's I posted is a TTSX... it's an unopened banana. TTSX:
“Perfection is Achieved Not When There Is Nothing More to Add, But When There Is Nothing Left to Take Away” Antoine de Saint-Exupery
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I think I hold a grudge against 'em going back 7-8 years ago when I was working up loads for my .358 with the X bullet. I spent significant money on the damn things, getting generally good groups BUT with the occasional head-scratcher of a flyer. Big time flyer I mean. But still, it was workable as a timber elk load, which was the whole idea.... so what happens? They discontinue it.
The fact they are always making big, significant, unannounced changes to their bulletsjust leaves me cold, too, like the ones Klik mentioned.
I'll be loading them again this year (8mm 180's or 200's) for one of my elk rifles but considering the above, the high documented failure rate, low BC, and way overpenetration <GRIN> I just keep passing on the koolaid intoxication that others can't resist.
The CENTER will hold.
Reality, Patriotism,Trump: you can only pick two
FÜCK PUTIN!
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I dealt with a lot of foul mouthed know-it-all lightweights before the internet came along. Tell us more Bangkok bar boy stories!
"Dear Lord, save me from Your followers"
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Serious question from someone that knows nothing about Barnes bullets- Are the guys that bust shoulders getting a different opinion of TSXs and other mono bullets as compared to the lung shooters? Thanks
Fred
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I'm a bone buster, always have and always will be. I love the Barnes for it and it don't destroy as much meat forward, for what that matters.
"Dear Lord, save me from Your followers"
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Steelhead, yea, I know you bust shoulders and was hoping you'd respond. In my own small experience, I have always tried to match bullet placement to the type of bullet being used. For example, before I learned that Ballistic Tips were bad bullets, iused them on deer and elk with no problem, I am a lung shooter most of the time.
thanks.
Fred
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I only ever had one BT 'fail' it it didn't open. That said, I found them too destructive for my liking when punching the running gear.
I still like a bullet that works when everything is wrong and can get to the goodies from any angle and bust bone. Things can go bad in a hurry, but you know that.
"Dear Lord, save me from Your followers"
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Another shoulder driller. Most everything my boys and I have shot through the shoulders with a TSX has dropped in it's tracks, or only gone a few steps.
Exception is a Red Stag my oldest son shot this past November with a .284 120gr. TSX
Stag ran for 30 yards.... although, probably half that distance was covered with his front half on the ground, and his rear legs plowing him along till he gave out.
I've only shot a handful of deer behind the shoulder with a TSX (.257 100gr.) They always made a mad dash, covering up to 50 -60 yards at most. Insides were always a mess. Chunky soup....
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I only ever had one BT 'fail' it it didn't open. That said, I found them too destructive for my liking when punching the running gear.
I still like a bullet that works when everything is wrong and can get to the goodies from any angle and bust bone. Things can go bad in a hurry, but you know that. If your prone to shooting in the arse, I am sure a Barnes is your huckleberry.
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I knew you'd come around with more Bangkok bar boy stories. Bet you typed the shooting in the arse part with one hand.
"Dear Lord, save me from Your followers"
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No bullet is infallible but there is a reason as to why it is becoming the bullet of choice for big game hunters everywhere. Last month at the Safari Club convention I spole with a gentleman who among his many hunts has taken all 23 species (?) of sheep world-wide. His bullet of choise? the TSX ot the TTSX. In Africa it is rapidly becoming the choice of Preofessional Hunters as well as clients. On a personal note the T/TTSXs are the most consistenly accurate bullet I've ever shot in more than ten calibers. My 257 Weatherby with 100gr TTSXs is incredibly accurate and kills them dead right there. I could go on. I don's dispute they have issues from time to time, but absolutely they've been a game changer and the marketplace reflects what their performance in the hunting fields produce.
A good principle to guide me through life: “This is all I have come to expect, standard lackluster performance. Trust nothing, believe no one and realize it will only get worse…”
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One in the hand - better than two in the bush is your MO, eh?
That explains all your rainbow rifles. laffin
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"Dear Lord, save me from Your followers"
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I'm a "take the shot that I have" shooter. If I see something I like, that I've passed up a bunch of animals for, I don't wait for it to turn broadside. I shot my bear last year quartering towards me. He landed quartering towards me..(grin) X's have a funny way of making that happen.
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Got a call from Barnes today the first 7mm LRXs will be tipped this week and I am supposed to get a few boxes.
The LRX is a tipped X with a higher BC and lower min velocity for expansion.
Time will tell if they are an improvement but we hope so.
We have to set a few guns up each year for California�s no lead zones and this might be just the ticket. Sounds like a bullet we both could agree on.
Coyote Hunter - NRA Patriot Life, NRA Whittington Center Life, GOA, DAD - and I VOTE!
No, I'm not a Ruger bigot - just an unabashed fan of their revolvers, M77's and #1's.
A good .30-06 is a 99% solution.
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Dont do it.... The ladies man will surely bonk you........ Thank me later...... Queers.......
and yes, I'm the man.............
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