Home Forums Hunting & Shooting Hunter's Campfire THE DAMAGE OBAMA HAS DONE

Many of the listed price increases (oil, gasoline, crop prices, housing market, etc) are totally out for the realm of the Federal Government - they are free market prices (there was no increase in Federal gasoline tax). Other items listed (poverty rate, unemployment rate, etc.) are by-products of the economy, which tanked starting in 2007 (before Obama). The entire nation (not just the Federal Government) was living high on the hog on credit and it collapsed!

It is amazing to think how much power many people think the President has (regardless of whom he is). Obama has been in office for 2 years (no, he does not walk on water and has certainly made errors). He inherited a critical banking crisis, a mega-meltdown in the stock and financial markets, major important manufacturing industries facing shutdown, major unemployment trends, etc. No one seems to consider the 30 years of previous administrations and events that have led to this point.

People may not like Obama, but he did not cause all the problems that we now have. But they are his now. We have spent ourselves into a corner. Recessions generally take about 24 months to recover, but unemployment may remain higher for several years pass this. This is apparently the situation we are now in � we are awaiting a full recovery that is estimated to take another several years. The recession may be �over� (declared over in June 2009 as GDP grew for 3 consecutive quarters), but it takes time for private industry to hire new employees since they�ve figured out how to do work with fewer of them.

We have "conservatives" and "balanced budget" congressmen like John Boehner of Ohio who have consistently supported such high-cost pork barrel projects like an alternate engine for the F-35 fighter (GE engine plant in SW Ohio). Pork projects are supported by both sides of the aisle, but it seems a little hypocritical for a "conservative" to push them.

The (Republican) Congress did indeed ratify NAFTA. The private sector (US Chamber of Commerce, large corporations, et. al.) supported it and promised that NAFTA would supur job growth in the US.

Bush was also asked about the price of milk and bread. He did not have any idea about these either. I don't expect the President to go shopping every week and memorize prices, but he should have an idea of them so he can understand what the average American is paying.

Turn the teleprompter off and ask Hussein the same questions.

Don't agree with this statement Sam. These companies moved offshore because labor in China and Burma could be obtained for $0.50 per hour, while no American would work for this (ignoring union demands) and they did not have to offer medical insurance and (Most Importantly), they could shelter income from US taxes. And, they did not have to comply with those pesky environmental laws that prohibit dumping toxic waste in the water and land; and, you can hire young kids to do dangerous work!

Speaking of taxes, do you realize that Exxon-Mobil paid nothing ($0) in US corporate income taxes in 2009, yet they earned $19 billion in profits, much of it here in the US? This is due to the US tax code that allows for a number of loopholes. Exxon-Mobil benefits for a strong national defense and other Federal programs; I think they should help pay for them, don't you?

Its all bambams fault.



A conservative that would do that?

First time anyone ever called me a commie.
I guess thats what happens when you call out a re-pub-low-crap for having some corporate pecker in his pocket or doing something stupid.


dave

How much longer you think you're going to be selling that it's GW's fault BS? Yes and this country will never regain it's footing under a Demoshitic government.

If you ever saw up close or was ever on a deep water drilling/production platform like Thunderhorse or Atlantis, e.g., you'd very much understand those "loopholes'. You somehow forgot to mention Exxon's research, donations, etc. Exxon get ~ 70% of their revenue from abroad, it may be higher. Jus sayin.

He forgot to factor in those wages and dividends that get taxed....

Damned math, again.

Your post is only partially accurate.Firstly Exxon/Mobil generated 45 billion in pre-tax revenue.Secondly they did pay 15 billion in taxes, just not to Uncle Sam.They also have not fully calculated their 2009 tax liability and no one knows what they will pay Uncle Sam.If anyone does know,they are not speaking.

But this wasn't the most offensive tax dodge of that year.Forbes reported that the�Most egregious,� is General Electric, which �generated $10.3 billion in pretax income, but ended up owing nothing to Uncle Sam. In fact, it recorded a tax benefit of $1.1 billion.

Who would of thought that Obama's buddy,Jeffery Immelt,who benefited from our tax code,but never skewered by the Commie-In-Chief,would screw Uncle Sam.The same Commie-In-Chief who has insistently whined about rich companies who don't pay their fair share,but is always conspicuously silent about his own cronies,who do the same as all corporations.

But the company escapes taxes on income earned here.

Make that "Bush and his conservative crew" and you'd be 100% correct.

djs

no surprise there djs. You have set yourself up as one of the chief apologists for hussein and his marxist krewe.

I'm not normally an alarmist or pessimistic but press Obama is not the problem; he is one of the symptoms of a much worse and serious problem that most US citizens are not aware of because the problem is with them.

Another symptom Is what's happening in Madison Wisc with the teacher's and other unions "takin' it to the streets.". We have a culture of entitlement, of ignorance, of laziness, of extravagance with milk toast morals if any; this explains how a community organizer from Chicago, with socialist, communist, and anarchist associates gets elected president on the slogan of "hope and change", the promise of "more".

The Founding Fatherrs warned of this; of course you have to know who they were and what they thought and wrote to be forewarned.

Amen.

I would agree with 95% of what you posted with one exception.Obama may not be the problem but he is a problem.

Obama is the dream come true for the 1960's radicals who have a fundamental hatred for this nation.

I know that Obama and his commie regime is inept and feckless but their desire and efforts to downgrade this nation to the level of a European socialist model,just can't be ignored.In spite of his rhetoric [lies],he has every intention of destroying this nation both economically and militarily.His actions so far indicate my statement to be true and in no way am I engaging in hyperbole.

Very true. Ann Coulter made a point of this at CPAC. She pointed out that the reason Republicans often go from fiscal conservatives to spending liberals, is that the American people like to complain about spending, but then only vote for those in government that spend or get money for their constituency.

This is one reason why having an uprising at the ballot box every so often (1994, 2010) never lasts. The American public's attention span lasts about 15 minutes and then the people who feed at the trough and like spending money go vote at the other elections.

It's not really the fault of politicians, they are what they are. Blame Americans, because in truth, our government is a reflection of our society.

Really the government as a whole has failed. We as a people have failed.

Obwan was elected� as was the Senate and House of Reps�


Only SCOUS was appointed� by elected officials.

We sat by and let it happen� we now need to vote our way out

Va..,

Knock it off. My uncontrollable giggling is unbecoming a man of my years.
Anyway, wasn't NAFTA a Clinton (The Liberal in Chief) program designed to help 'the working man'?
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It's okay fellas, he is going to charge us "Canucks" just over $5.00 to come visit, but not if we drive or walk over the border.
So with the 16 million of us coming down there, you will make some money off us.