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Rabbitdog, your H&R IS legal for BPCR competition!
That was decided as soon as someone said it wasn't!
The danged thing is an original design , made by the same company.
And they are not that bad to shoot, a friend has one and it recoils less than any "06 I have ever tried.
Wouldn't wanna shoot one in anything bigger than a 45/70, thoiugh! <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/blush.gif" alt="" />
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The BC is here. It shoots. First shot was an unfortunate Wabbit that wandered out in the gravel pits while I was sipping on a pop. 405gr bullets do a big number on Wabbits. Wasn't much left.
It shoots Remington green box 405's pretty good. Recoil with the Remington's is pretty much non-existant. Trigger is good. The hammer makes no noise when cocking.

The peep portion of the Williams rear sight has got to go. Using a peep in the middle of a Oregon dizzlefest doesn't work too good. Ended up pulling out the apeture just to see the target. I am ordering a blade sight to try for awhile.

I ordered a scope base from H&R. I might play musical scopes to see just what it can do. I know scoping a BC is blasphemy. Oh well.

I am hoping to have a few handloads ready to try Sunday.

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Zeke, just pull the apeture and shoot it like that.
For hunting, it is perfect, and even for target shooting it is not that bad either.

A big rear apeture is far beter than one that is too smalll.
Your eye centeres in the circle anyway....
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I just chickened out and scoped it. It shoots itty-bitty groups and is a blast to shoot. This will be the Elk rifle this fall.

Right now I have a prehistoric K4 on it. I put a Nikon Buckmaster 4x40 on layaway. That will go on the BC as soon as the scope comes off layaway.


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Whatever floats yer boat, Pal! <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/cool.gif" alt="" />
Stick some glass on it and go out and plant a critter with it!
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go out and plant a critter with it!


I already did. The first shot out of the gun was a Wabbit that was dumb enough to wander out onto the gravel pits before I started shooting. 405gr bullets don't leave much left over when shooting Wabbits.

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Zeke,

Here in Mississippi, the Dept. of Wildlife, Fisheries, and Parks has recently changed the primitive weapons rules to include single shot breechloaders.
"Primitive firearms, " for the purpose of hunting deer, are defined as single or double barreled muzzle-loading rifles of at least .38 caliber; single shot, breech loading, cartridge rifles (.38 caliber or larger) of a kind and type manufactured prior to 1900, and replicas, reproductions or re-introductions of those type rifles; and single or double-barreled muzzle-loading shotguns with single ball or slug. All muzzle-loading Primitive Firearms must use black powder or a black powder substitute with either percussion caps or #209 shotgun primers or flintlock inition. Breech loading single shot rifles must have exposed hammers and use metallic cartridges."
It seems like the H&R Buffalo rifle in 45-70 or 38-55 would fit into this catagory if you used Cowboy loads. This opens up a new dimension in Primitive Weapon season. How is the recoil with the 45-70?

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Go to Brownells.com and but one of the BRAKO recoil reducers. It makes those full house loads feel like a 30-30.
I shoot 545 gr cast bullet over 72.3 gr of Goex 2f at about 1155 FPS and can shoot it all day.
The Buffalo Classic is probably, without a doubt, at least in my mind the best buy dollar for dollar that you will find in a production 45=70. Lot cheaper than my custom Rolling block ( original)
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Bob,

Here's a photo of my "Mississippi Primitive Weapon" <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/grin.gif" alt="" />. Hope to try it out this weekend with some Federal 300gr Hot Core SP's.

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right now i only shoot muzzlloaders but looking fo a bc talk about recoil try one of the big ftffties i shoot paperpatch bullets get great groups you guy might try that you can get molds from mid way and lots of folks out there to help u out the book called the paper jacket is the paper patch bible a little more work and equipment is needed but worth it besides most of it it smalle and the wife wont know u have itbbpaper patch is the only way to go for long range shooting and no leading

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